Rum Tasting & Cocktail Class

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Hello hello everyone…

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Welcome to a.. will not a Thursday SipScout party

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That’s right! were on Friday. Its Friday!. were primetime tonight

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Yes ended. alright! and that’s the weekend here.

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Thank you for joining. We have quite a few people here. Hi everyone. Welcome!

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For those

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who have been here before welcome Zach 
Jay, Michael those of you who are new to us  

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let’s see I have to see a few other names Phyllis 
Kathy welcome we are so thrilled that you’re here  

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um yeah we’re gonna go on a little vacation 
today with you today and talk about rum and make  

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a delicious cocktail uh Suzanne thought this would 
be an appropriate way to invite you to the weekend  

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and I wholeheartedly agree yeah um a dog days of 
summer right during the dog days of summer we live  

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in Arizona for those of you who don’t know so if 
you think you’re in the dog days at summer we’re  

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really in some days of summer although I have to 
say growing up in Massachusetts humidity is is  

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worse yeah that’s not enough then I I would rather 
be in 105 degree Drive deep than in 85 degrees  

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soon season season here in Arizona it’s yeah also 
humid yeah all right I can’t wear the hat for the  

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whole show I’m sorry I can’t do it best of welcome 
everyone I’m gonna get too hot too hot all right  

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let’s get this started here so for those of you 
who are new and for those of you who’ve been here  

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before it’s always nice to have a little reminder 
of how we roll um I’m Suzanne I’m the founder of  

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The Crafty Cask where we are all about celebrating 
and supporting craft alcohol maker like today  

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yes and my name is Evan I’m a certified 
sommelier certified cider professional uh  

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Spirits Enthusiast and your mixologist for the day 
he is your boozy boozy expert he knows more about  

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booze and I know quite a bit about who’s myself 
these days um than anyone I know and you know well  

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he also has his W set three certification which is 
a spirits and wine certification so he knows a lot  

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about spirits rum included um so we will be your 
hosts for this evening we’re excited to have you  

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here the way we’re going to do this is the first 
I don’t know 45 minutes or so hour depending on  

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how much information we have to share and how 
many questions you have for us yeah please use  

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the chat as you say that make sure to use the 
chat and um you know right now if you want to  

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throw in the chat where you’re calling from and if 
it’s feeling like the dog days of summer for you  

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um or if you have any fun vacation plans coming up 
or just got back on vacation room yeah absolutely  

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um throw them in the chat so everyone can get to 
know each other a little bit see who’s here but  

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we’re going to start off in this webinar format 
where we will be doing the tasting teaching you  

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a little bit about rum getting you excited about 
you know rum and then we’ll be making a cocktail  

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a delicious cocktail one of my favorites for 
tropical vacations in summer um and so Evan will  

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walk you through how to make that and um then 
Romero will open it up and collect people see  

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their cameras turn on their webinars show us your 
pretty cocktails yeah absolutely and kind of see  

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see everyone’s faces yeah and get to kind of do 
a happy hour style after that I guess now that we  

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had a little booze enough so we get to socialize 
and hang out um looks like Jay is in he’s in  

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the cold and he’s in a hoodie Phyllis is from 
Durham North Carolina so it’s probably a little  

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humid there I would imagine um that’s true yeah I 
really I really love Durham I love that whole area  

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um great awesome so let’s get started here 
shall we if you have your SipScout kit  

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um you have the SipScout kit to pick up the show 
if you have a SipScout kit if you’re one of our  

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members thank you for being a member I hope you 
enjoyed this kit that you got this month so grab  

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your kit get your three smaller bottles of rum 
out and we’re gonna start with our rum tasting  

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and talk a little bit about how rum is made the 
history of rum and the tasty delicious rums so  

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let’s get these poured into our glasses we’ll 
start with the blue label um and then we will  

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I did we say we’ll do the gunpowder proof second 
I think that’s what we’re gonna do and then we’ll  

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do the age to 15 years last um so that’s the order 
that we’ll be pasting in and if you don’t have the  

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kit and you’re sipping on a different rum go ahead 
and throw it in the chat and let us know what  

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you’re sipping on yeah yeah be curious what other 
runs you are uh fans of out there yeah absolutely  

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it’s a exciting growing category obviously it’s 
been around for a very long time but as far as  

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the interest in something uh that can be dipped 
on the way that many people have been enjoying  

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bourbon for the last gosh it feels like 20 years 
now that bourbon’s been popular yeah for sure  

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and then as we’re going through here a little 
bit oh Jay’s sipping on Hampton rum excellent  

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do I know Jay has the kit as well so we’ll have 
to do a little comparison over there and as we’re  

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going through we’re also going to because we like 
to try to keep this interactive we’ll be from some  

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polls up as we go along um just to get your juices 
flowing about rum so there’s pepper talk about  

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this one you know where the first sugar cane based 
Spirit was distilled you can go ahead and put your  

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guesses in there but from is a sugar cane based 
spirit that is distinguishing or one of the yeah  

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one of the distinguishing factors whereas whiskey 
is made from grain Brandy is made from fruit Pike  

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is made from anything that has an incrementable 
sugar yeah absolutely um sake is made from rice  

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beer is made from grain right so that’s the 
source material is what defines categories  

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very often or at least one of the components 
and so rum does have to be made from sugarcane  

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um and but any form of sugarcane yeah so it 
could be sugar cane fresh sugar cane sugar  

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cane juice sugar cane syrup um sugar that’s made 
from cane does it have to be sugar made from cane  

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it does so yeah that’s an often often people 
get a little confused about this so a lot of  

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there is beet sugar which is very common um 
so if something was made if I something was  

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distilled from beet sugar that would not be 
considered wrong it does have to be sugarcane  

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um let’s see we have some guesses 
here Barbados good guess good guess  

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yeah do most of you I think most of us think 
of when we’re thinking about rum we think of  

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the Caribbean right we’re thinking about the you 
know British Virgin Islands and things of that  

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nature and that is very that’s because that’s 
where a lot of the rum comes from and that is  

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where a lot of the history of rum began um but 
surprisingly the first sugarcane-based spirit  

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this build was in Brazil and it was actually 
kashaka um so it was not rum and it was gosh  

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back in I’m trying to remember I think 1500 
was the first distilled um and so koshaka is  

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different than rum it’s a little bit more closely 
aligned to agricol Rum and so an agricult rum is  

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made from fresh sugar cane and then kashasa 
can be made from anything that’s sugar cane  

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based but is I believe that they’re just so fresh 
single distillation yeah so it is also it is also  

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um fresh sugar cane is required I believe so it 
can’t be made from molasses or anything like that  

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um but it can only be distilled once 
whereas rum can be distilled multiple times  

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um to get out kind of more impurities and things 
of that nature so which is why you’ve ever had  

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it does have a little bit more of like a raw 
and refined raw uh maybe almost even unclean  

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yeah character to it but agricultural rum often 
does as well and so agricultural rum I wanted  

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to talk about that momentarily because that is 
like in my mind the purest purest form of rum  

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almost yeah giving headed sugar right because 
right if you’re thinking that anything rum can  

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be made of has to start with sugar cane agricole 
rum is actually made from the sugar cane itself  

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so they actually take the sugar cane they put it 
directly through kind of wood chippers essentially  

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juicers these big and they have to do this in 
the field um and so they and the reason they  

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have to do it in the field is because sugar cane 
is very I don’t know if the right word is for it  

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unstable or that just degrades quickly yeah 
I think grades very quickly and so as soon as  

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you chop it down essentially you start to lose 
some of the sucrose that’s in it and I think  

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there’s some Stout that says within 24 hours 
of cutting down sugar cane third earth like  

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three percent of the sucrose is gone immediately 
and so you either have to refine it and turn it  

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into something very quickly or you have to right 
right reduce sugar like molasses something like a  

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byproduct of that or you have to really put it in 
that sugar right in the field bring it straight in  

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distill it or ferment it and distill it right away 
um and so really you can only get agricultural  

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rum where sugar cane is grown and so that is 
where most agricult rums are coming from from  

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the British Virgin Islands in French I think the 
French um colonized Caribbean is actually where  

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most of the alcohol rums come from that’s my great 
question as well yeah so side note on average goal  

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but now let’s get into let’s have a sip of our 
first round this is the posters blue label and  

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um who’s gonna cheers to everyone yeah cheers 
everyone thank you for joining happy Friday

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so one of the things that kind of distinguish 
distinguishes pushers and other I guess English  

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style runs um is this kind of really bold depth 
of character and spiciness that you find and these  

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are made from molasses um Suzanne was talking 
about agricole and that kind of Purity that you  

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find I feel like those often exhibit a lot more 
kind of grassy and herbaceous and like Olive notes  

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they are my favorite for Daiquiris instead of 
just using a light rum and we can talk about the  

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difference between white rum and alcohol later um 
but an agriculture is really grassy and herbaceous  

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and I think yeah right off the bat uh that that 
spice characters that those like low earthy notes  

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you really can kind of straight smell the Molasses 
that this is you know the source material is from  

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um and uh Phyllis makes a great 
point this is coming originally from  

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the Demerara Valley uh in I always 
pronounced this wrong Diana Guiana

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um that has been known for sugar production 
for years and years and years at one point  

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there were over 300 sugarcane Estates in 
the Demerara Valley and each one of them  

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had a Distillery associated with it that’s where 
Pussers got its start and it’s been kind of moved  

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and reincorporated and kind of recreated over 
the years into the British Virgin Islands and  

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even in North Carolina as Phyllis you might very 
well know I believe that’s the U.S headquarters  

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um and the sugar quality uh that you 
find here is distinguish the students  

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distinguishable enough that they named a sugar 
after it there’s you know turbinado sugar and  

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Demerara is another sugar that you can find 
that is actually named and labeled as such

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um yeah and I think this really just 
shines through in this first blue label  

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yeah and the blue label is really their Flagship 
this is the OG that’s been kind of around forever  

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um and put there’s a very very 
old very traditional brand  

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um and so this is kind of where you want to start 
with them to really get to know what they’re all  

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about yeah and you know the the historical 
components and the traditional components of  

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clusters are really quite fascinating they had 
a lot of close ties to the British royal Navy  

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um I want to make sure I’m not giving away 
anything in the polls that are coming up  

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you certainly will but that’s 
okay who are paying attention

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yeah and so sort of is considered the British 
Royal Navy’s wrong now not anymore to this  

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day and we’ll talk about that a little bit um but 
they started gosh I want to say back in the 1600s  

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um is when they really started so the British 
royal Navy they would give rations at the time  

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of beer through their to their Navy and so I’ve 
only get a ration of beer and after a while they  

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started to learn that fear went bad on these long 
voyages it did not hold very well you know and  

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then you know the discovery of Pop the map kind 
of helps that situation but that wasn’t what was  

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going on quite yet so then they started to kind 
of have some Brandy on the ships that was kind  

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of common but then the French and the British had 
some issues they didn’t want to have French French  

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products on their British royal Navy ships um the 
Dutch had gin but they also had some issues with  

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the Dutch um back then you know so there was all 
this colonization and all these these great big  

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countries who were kind of fighting over the 
world and and so they really have to go head  

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forward right exactly so they were trying these 
different things and they really wanted their  

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Sailors to have a ration every day essentially is 
the idea of it and you know if you were thinking  

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about what it was like to be a sailor back then 
versus what it might be like to be a sailor now  

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not to say if there’s any sale or fear but 
it’s easy to be a sailor now but you know the  

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labor intensive of like I don’t even know what 
the right words are for canons and putting the  

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cannons in the camera the sales and hugging online 
and like tossing the anchor in right pulling the  

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anchor back up right there were no buttons to 
bring that paper in right like it was really  

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heavy duty and the way that they fought battles 
back then too were really like eye to eye right  

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like you’re right in each other’s face and so 
there was this feeling that you know you needed  

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a little bit of liquid courage part of it and also 
a little bit of relief after a hard day work sure  

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they were it was decreed by the Royal Navy that 
every sailor gets a ration of alcohol every day  

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um and so when they started discovering kind of 
the Caribbean area and all of that and discovering  

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sugar cane and how that was all gone rum became 
the choice um really and so everyone got a daily  

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ration of rum starting in the 1600s a daily 
ration of rum for like 300 Years traditions  

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in any kind of quote-unquote modern establishment 
absolutely institutions yeah and plus there’s one

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that this was going on so they basically had a 
monopoly on like the British royal Navy and the  

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rum um and in one of the reasons they’re called 
clickers is you know this better than I do is  

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because it’s closer the Purser exactly so the 
Purser is the officer on board that’s in charge  

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of accounts and they make sure that everything 
that they need to put on the boat when they’re in  

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at dock it gets on the boat and everything has to 
get off gets taken off and then everybody you know  

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who has a responsibility does it and then they 
get their ration and all of that stuff is taken  

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care of by the person and cursor is what kind of 
evolved into Pusser over the years so the posters  

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the Poster’s rum was the top of whiskey sorry I’m 
sorry the top of rum yeah that you would get each  

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day as a jolly Jack tar I’m gonna stay on the high 
seas yeah and I don’t know the news on this this  

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and it’s kind of fun to think of that history 
isn’t it that like this is what the sailors  

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were drinking back in the 1700s like a very very 
I mean you know probably isn’t exactly the same  

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but very similar to this because they do still 
say that they follow the same recipe that they  

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followed way back then and that it’s still aged a 
minimum of three years it’s still made in wooden  

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top still the original admiralty run and the 
Admiral had specification for what he would allow  

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rum and it still made those specifications today 
so it’s really it’s a little sip of History you  

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know that like that that helps discover this 
world and definitely has some dark sides to it  

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um but you it smells it does have some like earthy  

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dirty is the wrong word because I I mean it’s not 
it’s kind of what I’m thinking but it’s like that  

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moldy dirty like deliciousness to it this is a 
weird thing to say I know and I feel like in no  

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small part of due to you know one of the unique 
features of poster drum and the uh essentially  

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the recipe that the Admiral had in place for the 
production of Rome for the sailors uh which is  

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that this is distilled in wooden pops which is 
very uncommon it’s very very uncommon I mean we  

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we taught we’ve been to a million distilleries 
we’ve talked to a lot of the fillers and even  

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when we were you know preparing to put together 
this kit they were like what is hot you know  

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I can’t even imagine like what that looks like 
and what that like because you’re thinking like  

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barrels are made out of wood that’s very common 
but for where it’s actually being made to be  

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made out of wood yeah and so one of the things 
they they attribute their depth of flavor to in  

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this versus other rottens and that little bit of 
like kind of funkiness that’s going on in there is  

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that for centuries yeah the centuries literally 
they didn’t have it’s wooden barrels has been  

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distilling and making fermenting congeners 
and Esters and things like that in and out  

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um yeah and so those layers of flavor over the 
years just and the wood too is kind of unique  

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um I believe it’s a South American 
hardwood which would make sense  

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um called green heart and some of these days have 
been around and been refurbished and refinished  

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or like a hundred plus years maybe even more 
simply because they wanted to keep the same  

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characteristics going again and again and again 
with each new distillation part of the reason that  

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this distillation method is incredibly uncommon 
um is well by contrast a continuous column still  

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which is another way of distilling has something 
in the neighborhood of like a 99 98 deficiency  

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which means that you’re not losing products that 
you don’t intentionally lose you’ll make the cuts  

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and describe the hearts I’m sorry discard 
the heads and the Tails and keep the hearts  

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but with with a wooden pot distillation simply 
by virtue of the fact that it’s going into a pot  

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that has to be open and then the pot itself is 
not fully peeling off from the you know the heat  

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that’s being produced um which is causing more and 
more of evaporation you’re gonna get maybe a 60  

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efficiency with something like a wooden possible 
yeah yeah um yeah and I think they say you know  

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their fermentation the loss leader well they say 
that their fermentation is not taking place in  

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days or or their distillation sorry it’s 
not being placed in date in hours it’s  

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taking place in days and weeks right so it 
is a much slower kind of art Artful process

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what do you guys think of this person on 
those of you who are sipping on it I really  

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I can’t wait till like when we all we 
can all talk when we get on happy hour  

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style but like if you haven’t really drink 
rum Street before because a lot of people  

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have it a lot of people think of rum and 
they think of you know these super fruity  

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drinks and buy the pool and rum and cokes and 
that’s like all that rum means to them and  

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dipping around the street for the first time 
really I remember when I remember very differently  

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when I did it yeah very like oh my gosh why 
haven’t I been sipping on this street all along  

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um so yeah I’m fascinated to to 
hear what everyone thinking here  

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uh give answers to our poll there sure um 
guess what you guys are all right because  

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because none of you none of you voted for the 
wrong answer there so originates were crazy 900  

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South America that does not have to be true all 
three of the others do have to be true though  

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so this was a multiple choice so if anyone 
gets all three then you’re there’s champions

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um that is around that originates somewhere 
other than the Caribbean or South America  

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this is kind of a fun lead-in to 
another component of rum’s History  

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so while many people attribute the beginning 
of the Revolutionary War to attack on TV  

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um a lot of historians would contend that in 
fact it was in fact on molasses which was used  

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to make from here the 13 original colonies 
yeah and uh Suzanne loves this story she’s  

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from Massachusetts and um what was the number 
like some outrageous number of rum distilleries  

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that is that is it full so okay but it is it’s 
crazy like if you think about you know back in  

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the day New England was the heart of rum making 
in this country and it was part of our founding  

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like it was before whiskey before we were making 
whiskey in this country they were making rum and  

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they were bringing molasses in from the Caribbean 
islands as part of you know the slaves trade route  

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um and it became very big in New England and 
it’s really fun so if any of you Evac I know  

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you’re out in that this neck of the woods there 
is a big Resurgence in New England right now of  

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craft wrong actually I think we have at least 
one we can break through all of them but Mad  

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River look at this you guys all of all of our 
rum bottles are like completely the dreads that  

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one’s from New Mexico that was from Mexico that 
was New Mexico Mexico New England Hawaii Hawaii  

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Florida we have um but so mad river is up 
in Vermont and they make one but there’s  

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a lot of distilleries that are really 
trying to get back to the roots of rum um

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it’s one of it’s in there somewhere but the great 
molasses blood in Boston that is a really fun  

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crazy story it was something like yeah the Boston 
Tea Party is not even all that crazy like they’re  

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mad and they throw some tea in the in the bay 
but like some molasses like a mistake that wasn’t  

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related to the revolution no I know but like but 
yeah stories of Boston in that time period how did  

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I not ever learn that yeah but basically the uh 
England started to tax molasses they said you know  

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um anything coming from a French colonized Island 
we’re going to place an import tax on it because  

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we don’t want the colonies buying stuff from 
France we want the colonies buying stuff from us  

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um and you know that did not go over super well 
that’s actually wear the start of the no taxation  

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without representation that we all learned in 
grade school came from they all talk about the  

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Boston Tea Party maybe I don’t know maybe because 
they don’t want to be talking to kids about rum  

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and alcohol maybe that’s why this part gets left 
out of our history lesson um but it really did  

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start with rum before the Boston Tea Party that 
the natives were getting restless and he’s not  

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the native stuff the Invaders yeah the Invaders 
um sidebar kind of a funny thing that I’ve always  

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been tickled by if you’ve ever been to DC you 
might know that DC license plate there the term  

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taxation without representation right there on 
every single license plate I think that’s just  

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hilarious they don’t get to vote they don’t have 
Senators they will have Representatives yeah um  

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all right Zach says he does not have the vocab to 
describe it his girlfriend says it’s aggressive  

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if this is drinking a little aggressive to you and 
this goes with any Spirit if anything is drinking  

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we tend to call it hot where it feels like the 
alcohol punch is overtaking the flavors add a drop  

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or two of water to it and we actually normally 
have a rubber that we don’t have with us um but  

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we usually do a dropper and yeah you could just do 
it Evan just did and you don’t want to put a lot  

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in because you can always add more but you can’t 
take it out um but that really starts to kind of  

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dilute it a little bit you just wanted to leave it 
a little bit at a time because you it can get to  

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a certain point where it will start drinking more 
like water with a little bit of rum in it rather  

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than a rum with a little bit of water in it it’ll 
also help to break the surface tension right here  

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so that the Aromas can kind of separate a little 
bit more and you’ll get a broader spectrum and  

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maybe be able to pull out some of the Impressions 
a little bit more readily yeah if you’re having  

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like I always think of it as if I’m ever having a 
hard time finding the Aromas finding the flavors  

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and I’m just like I’m drinking alcohol that’s 
when you want to add a little water or an ice cube  

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um our suggestion if you want to add an ice cube 
because some people that’s the temperature of it  

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too some people really like it to be a little 
bit cooler to enjoy it um but what we would  

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suggest with an ice cube is adding an ice cube 
in giving it a swirl and then fishing that ice  

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cube out don’t leave the whole Ice Cube in there 
in a fully milk because that will give you that  

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little bit of water and cooling temperature but it 
won’t dilute it yeah after doing a couple of drops  

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um I do feel like that’s kind of expanded a little 
bit more allowing me to pick out a few more things  

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for some reason can’t figure it out but I I think 
I’m smelling I think I’m smelling some banana  

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because we’re wearing bananas I do smell a little 
banana it’s almost like rotten banana though I  

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agree yeah it’s like banana peel that you left in 
the car yeah I also got a tiny bit of olive okay  

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and definitely brown sugar or yeah no like 
black olives and definitely brown sugar and  

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caramel like caramelized banana maybe a little 
bit delicious yum yum we go on to our yeah  

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the second one let’s move on to the gunpowder 
proof that’s what we’re gonna drink next and um  

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as the name suggests this one will also 
probably taste and hit a little a little sauce

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although on the nose it doesn’t know 
punch me anything like it right in the  

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nose as much as uh well Evan’s getting 
acquainted with our second tasting here  

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um 1655 is when the British Royal Navy’s daily 
ration of beer was replaced with rum but damn  

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long time ago yeah a long time crazy if you 
think of that so yeah back in 1655 is when  

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rum became the official daily reactions 
Plymouth Rock Massachusetts Massachusetts

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I don’t I actually don’t know what the appropriate 
proper name is to call someone from Massachusetts  

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um I think I take pride in my mouthfulness I’m 
not I’m not offended um I’m not sure when Plymouth  

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Rock I mean we all know he’s around then well we 
all know 1492 Columbus actually blue but I’m not  

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sure what the in the first horrible Massachusetts 
or what if we’re calling me I don’t know that that  

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was that was a big field trip when we were kids 
we’d all go to Plymouth Rock near Thanksgiving

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so um yeah this definitely has a lot of the 
same heavy Aromas and I think that they’re  

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even accentuated more so because this is high 
proof and I don’t know if you can read that I  

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know the print is kind of small but this 
is 54.5 ABV as opposed to I believe 40.  

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42 for the blue label uh which I mean it 
packs a lot more punch in the addition  

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of like that higher proof in the alcohol 
tends to lend to a higher perception of  

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sweetness as well as spice so both of those 
things should be more pronounced in this

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and it follows through these roads there’s pepper 
there’s a lot of baking spices and there’s plenty  

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of those sweet sugar you know sugary characters 
yeah brown sugar caramel molasses well if you  

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also get some of those spice characteristics 
that are hitting on the side of your palate

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I feel like that really is a really fun kind of 
combination with the spice and the sweetness so  

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the gunpowder proof uh rum was something that 
was developed kind of as a dismissal of the  

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claims that the rations the top of rum that were 
being issued the soldiers were being watered down  

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you know when they moved from beer to Rum 
they definitely noticed the impact that the  

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high-proof product had on the characteristics 
and the behavior of the sailors many of them  

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would take their half pint and just throw the 
whole thing right down um which led to death in  

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some cases but also belligerence and Antics and uh 
tomfoolery you know Shenanigans all the uh all the  

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magic things and as a result there was certainly 
probably in many instances where the captain of  

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the ship would decide hey I’m I’m not going to 
give them like the straight bullproof stuff uh  

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let’s let’s cut it a little bit boys can’t handle 
that they can’t handle their straight moves  

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um and the sale is very suspicious over time and 
so one of the ways that they were able to prove to  

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this video is that they were in fact getting the 
the full strength stuff was at a certain proof  

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essentially when the run is flammable on its 
own it won’t prevent the ignition of gunpowder  

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and hence the term gunpowder proof and so a 
splash of watered-down rum on a little pile  

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of gunpowder when you would go to ignite it it 
wouldn’t ignite it and so the the high strength  

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stuff would still allow the gunpowder to ignite 
indicating to the sailors that it wasn’t backed  

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what they expected at the full proof um It’s 
actually kind of the origin of the term proof  

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right proof that this is actually Spirits right  

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um there’s a way to to verify something you know 
in this case prior to the hydrometer and during  

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the days of like prohibition here in the United 
States when the ptd wasn’t testing the Moonshine  

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that you were making out in the shed that was 
one of the ways that you could prove it to your  

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neighbor who might want to buy some of your 
Hooch that it wasn’t in fact the real deal um

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yeah that’s it’s still lingering 
yeah it’s quite delicious

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you know the Jet Pilot cocktail so it’s a thing 
this would be perfect for the Jet Pilot cocktail  

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or maybe the I know the Jet Plane uh-huh is the 
Jet Pilot essentially rum in place of whiskey  

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in the Jet Plane no it looks very it looks 
like there’s three different rooms in it I  

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just looked it up because I wasn’t familiar with 
it either it’s overproof Jamaican rum the mirror  

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Demerara rum gold rum grapefruit juice lime 
juice cinnamon syrup Salerno absence Angus  

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parabitters and a cherry as a garnish 
there’s a lot going on in our cocktails  

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I’m curious about this so this is this a cocktail 
that you enjoy recommended I haven’t had this yeah  

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it says it also said it’s a bin on a testify 
with uh cocktails another thing in Jet Plane  

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yes pilot right but pilot test check yeah 
okay cool we’re gonna have to play around  

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with that later and I don’t know if we have any 
plans I don’t think we do we can get some yeah

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originated at the luau in 1950. yeah it sounds 
like one will do yeah you can share it it’s  

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perfect I love it historically common nickname 
for rum rum bullion Kill Devil and rambustion  

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are all historically common names for rum 
and actually what they called rum before  

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they called it rum it was kind of shortened 
just to Rama over time Red Rum is the only  

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red herring in there yeah the 
red herring red rum Red Rum yeah

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um

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all right I actually wanted to see if I can 
find it I just wanted to this is a fabulous  

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look if you’re curious about Ramadan yeah it’s 
fabulous and I just wanted to read the opening  

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to the forward because it’s really it’s just 
so Martin Kate who is um one of the founder and  

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owners of Smuggler Cove in San Francisco which is 
an amazing rum bar if you’re ever in San Francisco  

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God they have what like 500 rums or something they 
have three different bars across three different  

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floors they have a rum club actually where if 
you try I think it’s every room they have maybe  

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right if you try every rum they have and not in a 
certain period of time or anything like that and  

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actually probably not allowed to be too short of a 
period um but do it all tonight but if you do that  

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and they have a ways to keep track you and they 
actually take you on a trip to like one of the  

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rum making regions or islands and everyone who’s 
done that in the last year gets to go on a trip  

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I think you get like a jacket that has like the 
name of their Club on it that was the Riddler uh  

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oh the jacket was the Riddler yeah and I was like 
wait you get to go on a trip to the Caribbean if  

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you do it here and yeah at this place you only 
get a jacket yeah so the forward to this is by  

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the owner of this um bar which is amazing but it 
says it’s hard to underestimate the importance of  

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rum indeed there has scarcely been a moment in 
the last three centuries when Rome hasn’t been  

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at the center of Commerce nation building Wars 
at sea or Wars in court no other Spirit can tell  

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so many tales of Triumph and tragedy on his long 
journey alongside the development of the new world  

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it has transformed itself to match Regional taste 
consumer demand and Commercial pressures often it  

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has soared at times it has fallen it has enslaved 
and liberated it has been a hero a villain and a  

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scapegoat but the story of RAM godan like it 
just it gives me goosebumps because it’s just  

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so many people you know when we’re drinking we’re 
just drinking for effect and we’re like I thought  

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a hard day I want to have a drink and get drunk 
but like if you stop to think a little bit about  

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where this comes from and everything it’s been 
a part of in our history and you know in a lot  

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00:34:27,780 –> 00:34:31,980
of spirit comedy is histories tequila is another 
great example of like a lot of historical pieces  

352
00:34:31,980 –> 00:34:37,860
to it um but it really just for me for us 
and this is why I found at the graphic ass  

353
00:34:38,940 –> 00:34:43,380
um just transports you while you’re drinking 
makes you have an appreciation makes you slow  

354
00:34:43,380 –> 00:34:47,700
down and savor it a little bit more makes you 
feel more connected to other people in the world  

355
00:34:48,540 –> 00:34:52,980
um and I just feel like rum is like 
the darling child of that yeah I mean  

356
00:34:52,980 –> 00:34:58,500
really there are a few things out there 
that are associated with as much [Music]  

357
00:34:58,500 –> 00:35:06,120
um life and death as rum I mean maybe 
like the Gutenberg Press yeah yeah  

358
00:35:08,100 –> 00:35:16,500
and you know to talk a little bit about the 
dark history of rum it was very very closely  

359
00:35:16,500 –> 00:35:23,400
intricated with the slave trade yeah um very 
much so and one of the reasons for that is it’s  

360
00:35:24,120 –> 00:35:30,180
sugarcane is very water intensive to grow but 
it’s also very labor intensive to grow and  

361
00:35:30,180 –> 00:35:36,300
harvest like very labor intensive um and while as 
you know these explorers were discovering these  

362
00:35:36,300 –> 00:35:41,160
Caribbean islands they saw that stuff was 
growing and the water intensivity was there  

363
00:35:41,160 –> 00:35:45,420
there’s plenty of water in Caribbean islands they 
had the water to grow it they did not have the  

364
00:35:45,420 –> 00:35:50,880
labor to really grow it in Harvest it and turn it 
into a commercial kind of trading and at the time  

365
00:35:50,880 –> 00:35:56,340
you know sugar was as valuable as spices so the 
spice trade right sugar was as valuable as that  

366
00:35:56,340 –> 00:36:00,840
and so it was opportunistic for these explorers 
to figure out how to get more sugar how to plant  

367
00:36:00,840 –> 00:36:06,060
more sugar cane how to get more out of this and 
as they did this you know and they realized how  

368
00:36:06,060 –> 00:36:10,980
much labor they needed the slaves were already 
on their shifts was an obvious answer and then  

369
00:36:10,980 –> 00:36:16,440
starting to bring more slaves over just to work 
the sugar cane fields and then it became even  

370
00:36:16,440 –> 00:36:23,100
more deeply kind of in this because the 
byproduct of making sugar with molasses  

371
00:36:23,100 –> 00:36:27,420
and what happened and really kind of part of 
where you know the rum popularity came from is  

372
00:36:28,140 –> 00:36:33,180
some molasses was sitting on the side someone 
added a little water to it some native yeast from  

373
00:36:33,180 –> 00:36:39,780
the air got into it it fermented and they started 
to distill it you know someone smartly came over  

374
00:36:39,780 –> 00:36:45,540
and said let’s kind of turn this into and then 
this was you know at the beginning it was actually  

375
00:36:45,540 –> 00:36:51,720
kind of a slave alcohol like it was cheap it was a 
byproduct of sugar the explorers and the colonists  

376
00:36:51,720 –> 00:36:55,860
weren’t really interested in it because that’s not 
what they were selling and so the slaves started  

377
00:36:55,860 –> 00:37:00,600
to kind of make this for themselves and then all 
of a sudden the slave Traders wanted some and then  

378
00:37:00,600 –> 00:37:05,100
all of a sudden the colonists wanted some and 
now all of a sudden you needed more slaves to  

379
00:37:05,100 –> 00:37:11,400
make this but the slaves also had demand for 
it and so it was this really vicious cycle of  

380
00:37:12,000 –> 00:37:19,140
you know supporting a horrific part of our history 
where rum really came from and that’s really how  

381
00:37:19,140 –> 00:37:25,260
it got up into New England as well as you know New 
England was a very key part of the Sleep trade and  

382
00:37:25,260 –> 00:37:28,920
um as you know things were coming up there 
and they’d get some rum they’d bring rum up  

383
00:37:28,920 –> 00:37:32,760
and they’d sell rum to the new englanders and 
the new englanders very quickly realized like  

384
00:37:32,760 –> 00:37:37,140
hey why are we buying rum from them why don’t 
we buy molasses from them they have all this  

385
00:37:37,140 –> 00:37:41,940
molasses like can we buy the Molasses for cheap 
bring it up here and we’ll distill it ourselves  

386
00:37:42,720 –> 00:37:45,780
um and so that’s really how rum became 
so prominent in New England as well  

387
00:37:46,980 –> 00:37:52,800
um so it does have a dark and stormy history dark 
and stormy is also a delicious cocktail that you  

388
00:37:52,800 –> 00:37:59,100
can make with Rome it’s sad that there’s so many 
connections like that too yeah um but yeah but  

389
00:37:59,100 –> 00:38:06,900
it is a beautiful drink that that we are very 
grateful is is here for us to enjoy and yeah

390
00:38:09,240 –> 00:38:14,040
raising a glass to the 
hardships that helps create this

391
00:38:18,000 –> 00:38:27,180
uh so moving on to our last spirit this 
is the Aged 15 year so if there’s room and  

392
00:38:28,320 –> 00:38:38,640
by contrast to aged Spirits in more Northerly 
latitudes like bourbon in Kentucky or uh scotch  

393
00:38:38,640 –> 00:38:46,200
in Scotland when you’re aging spirited in a 
private the tropical climate the intense heat  

394
00:38:46,200 –> 00:38:53,100
that you really don’t get much of an abatement 
from accelerates this process tremendously the  

395
00:38:53,100 –> 00:38:59,460
blue label is simply aged for I think three years 
and the development of flavor in this I think  

396
00:38:59,460 –> 00:39:07,680
you’ll all agree is pretty like remarkable um and 
they do say that in um because it’s so humid and  

397
00:39:07,680 –> 00:39:13,860
it’s so hot in the regions where they’re making 
rum and Asian rum that like a three-year rum is  

398
00:39:13,860 –> 00:39:18,540
kind of equivalent to maybe like a five or six 
year age with teeth or that the aging process is  

399
00:39:18,540 –> 00:39:27,420
faster right this 15 year by extension is like a 
30 year old Dodge perhaps I think Forbes magazine  

400
00:39:27,420 –> 00:39:35,040
or orbs is actually called this the single Malta 
runs okay I wouldn’t be surprised yeah yeah  

401
00:39:35,820 –> 00:39:40,200
um and the other reason why I think these have 
such a depth of flavor is those wooden pot Stills  

402
00:39:41,040 –> 00:39:43,980
um you know versus ones that are being 
made in column Stills that don’t have  

403
00:39:43,980 –> 00:39:49,620
that Advantage so for a younger rum it’s 
still really drinks well beyond its weight

404
00:40:04,440 –> 00:40:09,900
yeah that’s like the best of both worlds you’ve 
got the sweetness and the spice and the intensity  

405
00:40:10,620 –> 00:40:16,740
but you’ve also got a lot of roundness because 
it’s not as high proof as the gunpowder

406
00:40:21,000 –> 00:40:22,740
what do you think

407
00:40:27,420 –> 00:40:33,060
dried apricot coffee um there’s almost like

408
00:40:35,940 –> 00:40:36,940
um [Music]

409
00:40:40,260 –> 00:40:45,840
you’ll have to remember Evan’s a trained sommelier 
so he has a palette and sometimes I have to we’ll  

410
00:40:45,840 –> 00:40:48,960
be sitting there having some wine and I’m like 
have you piece of this yet it’s been like 20  

411
00:40:48,960 –> 00:40:54,540
minutes and so but it’s fun to hear him what he’s 
smelling what he’s tasting and just because he’s a  

412
00:40:54,540 –> 00:41:01,080
transmelier does not mean he’s right sorry honey 
but um it just means that he has more practice  

413
00:41:01,080 –> 00:41:07,440
identifying things like this and it’s really fun 
actually once he says something to just go see if  

414
00:41:07,440 –> 00:41:11,100
you can find it and you might not be able to and 
part of the reason you might not be able to find  

415
00:41:11,100 –> 00:41:15,000
it is because you’re not familiar with it right 
like if you don’t eat dried apricots you’re not  

416
00:41:15,000 –> 00:41:19,560
going to find dried apricots in here um so but it 
is it can be a fun Challenge and that’s actually  

417
00:41:19,560 –> 00:41:25,560
one of the ways that my palette has improved over 
the years that I’ve known him is I listen to what  

418
00:41:25,560 –> 00:41:29,580
he’s saying and then I go challenge my brain to 
be like can you find that can you identify that  

419
00:41:29,580 –> 00:41:33,420
and then the next time I do it myself when 
he’s not around all of a sudden I can find  

420
00:41:33,420 –> 00:41:38,640
some of those things um so it’s it’s really 
fun to hear what he’s doing and you know I  

421
00:41:38,640 –> 00:41:44,040
feel like a lot of the same notes that we’ve 
been discussing in the first few are present  

422
00:41:44,040 –> 00:41:51,360
here it’s just there’s a measure of integration 
that I’m finding that is not surprising given the  

423
00:41:51,360 –> 00:41:57,120
amount of time it’s aged and I feel like that’s 
one of the reasons that you age a spirit is the  

424
00:41:57,120 –> 00:42:05,340
flavor of profiles become less disjointed and 
allowed for a smoother rounder kind of experience  

425
00:42:06,420 –> 00:42:13,320
um which by you know contrast about something 
more difficult to pick out the individual players  

426
00:42:13,320 –> 00:42:19,080
yeah for sure yeah and they look like Jen agrees 
this is the first one that’s not too large and  

427
00:42:19,080 –> 00:42:27,060
yeah and it is it’s much smoother um for me it 
almost like Falls a little slap in comparison to  

428
00:42:27,060 –> 00:42:31,920
these two just because it is so well integrated 
and it is so smooth I like a little bit of like  

429
00:42:31,920 –> 00:42:39,120
the prominence of the flavor profiles and 
Aromas and the first two um but it is very  

430
00:42:40,860 –> 00:42:46,320
very nice oh Phyllis gets Oak and spice 
and vanilla a lot of that is from the  

431
00:42:46,320 –> 00:42:51,240
barrel aging that’s great yep and then orange 
orange zest nice let me see if I can find that

432
00:42:54,720 –> 00:42:58,080
yeah I can kind of see that that oiliness

433
00:43:03,840 –> 00:43:09,600
I do get a little like citrusy I can see where 
you’re you’re going with that that’s really fun  

434
00:43:09,600 –> 00:43:13,440
and that’s a really fun thing to do too like in 
your tasting Spirit whenever you’re gonna make a  

435
00:43:13,440 –> 00:43:18,840
cocktail if you haven’t tasted the spirit on its 
own before you make the cocktail always taste the  

436
00:43:18,840 –> 00:43:23,280
spirit first because that right there finding 
like oh there’s a little orange zestiness and  

437
00:43:23,280 –> 00:43:28,860
it can inspire you to garnish it differently to 
maybe use a different like liqueur with it than  

438
00:43:28,860 –> 00:43:32,280
you were planning on using it’s just like cooking 
you wouldn’t cook with it you didn’t know what  

439
00:43:32,280 –> 00:43:37,260
they tasted like same thing goes for Spirits 
so it’s really important to kind of do that

440
00:43:39,600 –> 00:43:46,920
is a Navy rum how did we do here yes it is not 
any rum that is provided by the Navy good job  

441
00:43:46,920 –> 00:43:51,600
no one picks that one um it is actually 
the technical like definition that leads  

442
00:43:51,600 –> 00:43:55,860
according to Pusser’s Rama is that it’s a rum 
that is distilled in wooden box builds that that  

443
00:43:55,860 –> 00:44:01,440
is the designation there however I have read 
in other places that being at least 57 proof  

444
00:44:01,440 –> 00:44:07,380
makes it one I don’t know if that’s true because 
this isn’t 57 proof um and I do feel like you’ll  

445
00:44:07,380 –> 00:44:13,500
also find rums that are navy style rum and so 
that’s one of the things that might delineate  

446
00:44:14,640 –> 00:44:20,520
um whether it’s actually just built in 
a wooden pot still right a Navy rather  

447
00:44:20,520 –> 00:44:24,540
than a Navy style room right yeah and 
then you also see Navy straight from

448
00:44:26,880 –> 00:44:32,640
right and that’s usually really just talking about 
the fruit um and you find Navy experience gyms too  

449
00:44:32,640 –> 00:44:37,200
I believe sometimes yeah I think your spirit 
works next month um and the one that’s maybe  

450
00:44:37,200 –> 00:44:41,580
Admiral specifications but through drum was made 
for the Admiral specifications since the Admiral  

451
00:44:41,580 –> 00:44:47,040
does not specify anything anymore that is no 
longer part of it um but yeah still it is it’s  

452
00:44:47,040 –> 00:44:52,020
in a blender drama I believe that it is I believe 
all of the third drums are blanket runs I actually  

453
00:44:52,020 –> 00:44:58,980
think they have five different um rums spills 
essentially making rums and they’re all Blended  

454
00:44:58,980 –> 00:45:08,220
from yeah yeah they have spills in Diana in BVI 
and perhaps also even in North Carolina I’m not  

455
00:45:08,220 –> 00:45:11,640
sure if they have the bills in North Carolina why 
do you think so oh that’s where their headquarters  

456
00:45:11,640 –> 00:45:17,940
I don’t think they do I think all of the ram 
is made and distilled in the Caribbean yeah

457
00:45:20,400 –> 00:45:21,420
yeah for sure

458
00:45:25,320 –> 00:45:34,140
these are delicious yeah I I do agree 
though that there’s a challenge about  

459
00:45:34,140 –> 00:45:42,180
really appreciating something that has this kind 
of Polish and finish to it because while it’s a  

460
00:45:42,180 –> 00:45:50,640
little bit more walkable maybe there’s not quite 
as much uh curiosity inspiring components sure

461
00:45:53,880 –> 00:45:56,820
I’m just going to say something I totally 
lost my parents out what did you start  

462
00:45:56,820 –> 00:46:03,900
saying in the beginning someone’s smelling 
something good polish I don’t remember it  

463
00:46:03,900 –> 00:46:06,180
was when I was going to talk a little 
bit of our tasting technique some one  

464
00:46:06,180 –> 00:46:10,020
of our tasting techniques I think 
I was going to mention uh um yeah

465
00:46:13,320 –> 00:46:19,020
should we make our cocktails I think so is 
it cocktail making yeah so and for those  

466
00:46:19,020 –> 00:46:24,900
of you who do not have um the kit where you got 
everything that you needed to kind of make this  

467
00:46:25,920 –> 00:46:29,880
um if you want to play along and you happen 
to have these ingredients at home I know I  

468
00:46:29,880 –> 00:46:35,400
emailed it out earlier as well and it was on 
our events page and things of that nature but  

469
00:46:35,400 –> 00:46:39,600
um you need pineapple juice you need 
coconut cream which is different than  

470
00:46:39,600 –> 00:46:43,080
coconut milk although you could probably use 
coconut milk if that’s what you have at home  

471
00:46:44,280 –> 00:46:47,760
um maybe I just wouldn’t stir the coconut 
milk and just take a little bit of that creamy  

472
00:46:48,480 –> 00:46:56,160
creamiest like top part that you know coagulates 
um so coconut cream pineapple juice orange juice  

473
00:46:56,160 –> 00:47:03,000
and um rum and Nutmeg and if you have some 
cocktail cherries that would be great too or  

474
00:47:03,000 –> 00:47:09,300
a slice of pineapple but that’s kind of everything 
you need to do this if you have your kit um grab  

475
00:47:09,300 –> 00:47:13,560
your coconut cream and start shaking it for an 
hour you’re going to want to do this shake it up  

476
00:47:13,560 –> 00:47:21,300
for a little bit and then you’ll also need a can 
opener um or one of those I always call them Hi-C  

477
00:47:21,300 –> 00:47:25,440
the heisty thing I found when I was a kid they 
would always my mom would puncture of a high c  

478
00:47:26,880 –> 00:47:31,020
um what does it mean when 
someone says place the main brace  

479
00:47:32,940 –> 00:47:37,440
it actually means all of these things um today it 
means let’s have a drink so if someone says today  

480
00:47:37,440 –> 00:47:42,600
probably in England I would imagine probably not 
going to hear this in the States but if someone  

481
00:47:42,600 –> 00:47:47,520
says you hey slice the main brace and he’s like 
let’s go get a drink but it did you it technically  

482
00:47:47,520 –> 00:47:54,180
means in seafaring terms to trim the largest and 
heaviest sale on the ship but then the people who  

483
00:47:54,180 –> 00:47:59,580
were doing that in those days were given a double 
issue of rum for a job well done because they had  

484
00:47:59,580 –> 00:48:04,920
a very hard job um so you would say you know it’s 
like the brace and they’d get two two rations of  

485
00:48:04,920 –> 00:48:10,500
Rome all right so first off we are gonna squeeze 
some orange in here I’m just looking for an  

486
00:48:10,500 –> 00:48:20,460
ounce of this um my Citrus press does not quite 
fit a full half of an orange so I’m gonna just  

487
00:48:20,460 –> 00:48:26,100
gently do this by hand you’ve got a four candies 
sometimes that’ll be a helpful way to uh yeah

488
00:48:28,980 –> 00:48:29,820
squeeze it out

489
00:48:36,180 –> 00:48:41,640
I guess you could put a quarter of the orange 
to put it yeah but actually you know what  

490
00:48:42,660 –> 00:48:46,080
am I grabbing that I’m just gonna 
record this because this is slow going  

491
00:48:47,280 –> 00:48:54,180
and squeezed hand squeeze is a little slow 
going well I’m trying to be too precise and  

492
00:48:54,180 –> 00:48:59,280
not make a mess and just get it all 
right in the in the shot glass here

493
00:49:11,940 –> 00:49:16,680
it didn’t give me nearly as much juice around so 
I would call it those the painkiller cocktail is  

494
00:49:16,680 –> 00:49:21,120
an interesting cocktail um if they trademarked 
cocktail there aren’t very many of these in the  

495
00:49:21,120 –> 00:49:27,000
world there are a few um and so Mrs Rome has 
actually trademarked this cocktail and what  

496
00:49:27,000 –> 00:49:32,100
that means is if you are making money off 
of this cocktail if you are you have it on  

497
00:49:32,100 –> 00:49:37,860
a bar restaurant or a restaurant menu a bar menu 
anywhere like that it has to be made to put those  

498
00:49:37,860 –> 00:49:43,200
rocks you cannot make it with any other world 
they can come and sue you and take your house yeah  

499
00:49:44,100 –> 00:49:47,640
um if you’re making a painkiller at home of 
course you can make it with whatever room you want  

500
00:49:48,540 –> 00:49:54,600
um but it is really it is a putzer’s rum cocktail 
um and I didn’t know that when I first started  

501
00:49:54,600 –> 00:50:00,000
drinking them I just started you know seeing them 
on menus and ordering them out and I I’ve been  

502
00:50:00,000 –> 00:50:05,100
referring to it for a very long time as like the 
grown-up pina colada and the reason I feel that  

503
00:50:05,100 –> 00:50:11,580
way is not because I think kids should drink pina 
coladas um but I feel like you know when you’re  

504
00:50:11,580 –> 00:50:17,400
in your call in college and in your 20s you know 
you’re not worrying about things like calories or  

505
00:50:17,400 –> 00:50:23,400
you know sweetness or anything like that and so I 
would drink pina coladas all the time and I would  

506
00:50:23,400 –> 00:50:30,840
just be this big Frozen like decadent dessert 
essentially you know um and as I got older I  

507
00:50:30,840 –> 00:50:35,220
really wanted pina coladas but I couldn’t you know 
I’d have one and maybe I wanted more than that and  

508
00:50:35,220 –> 00:50:40,560
it just felt like a dessert it felt very heavy 
it felt very like a lot um and so what I love  

509
00:50:40,560 –> 00:50:48,180
about the painkiller is it’s kind of just like 
a thinner lighter like less caloric you know and  

510
00:50:48,180 –> 00:50:52,680
it’s funny that I’m saying that because I don’t 
know is I am not I don’t diet like I’m not I’m not  

511
00:50:52,680 –> 00:50:57,960
one of those people I am very comfortable eating 
things and drinking things that I want to but you  

512
00:50:57,960 –> 00:51:01,620
know I like to have a couple of drinks when I’m 
sitting by the pool and I can have a couple of  

513
00:51:01,620 –> 00:51:06,120
painkillers I can’t have a couple of pina coladas 
they just like fill my belly and make me feel  

514
00:51:06,120 –> 00:51:12,420
gross after a while because there’s so much kind 
of thickness yeah going on there so I really like  

515
00:51:12,420 –> 00:51:18,360
these because they give me that same vacationy 
Vibe of a pina colada but a little bit later um  

516
00:51:18,360 –> 00:51:24,420
the story behind the origination of this cocktail 
seemed like grabbing the strainer there thank you

517
00:51:27,240 –> 00:51:35,940
comes from the British Virgin Islands and 
and the owner of posters at the time had  

518
00:51:35,940 –> 00:51:43,020
learned of this cocktail being made by the 
owner of a bar called the Soggy Dollar Bar  

519
00:51:43,680 –> 00:51:52,080
and the Soggy Dollar Bar is located on Joe’s 
Van Dyke Island uh on the white Bay Park  

520
00:51:52,860 –> 00:51:57,000
but there’s no doc on Joe’s Van Dyke 
and so the only way to get to the bar  

521
00:51:57,600 –> 00:52:03,540
was to dive in the water and swim up making 
your dollars foggy hence the name of the bar  

522
00:52:04,860 –> 00:52:09,480
um and he came to visit her and told her 
you know love what you’re doing what I love  

523
00:52:09,480 –> 00:52:15,240
that you’re making this uh cocktail that you’re 
locally famous for in this or in the painkillers  

524
00:52:15,900 –> 00:52:20,340
and um because you know he 
had invested time and money  

525
00:52:22,140 –> 00:52:27,600
in the posters and making this you know beautiful 
representation of the British Royal Navy’s uh  

526
00:52:27,600 –> 00:52:32,880
famous famous rum he wanted to know what was 
in it and she refused them and refused them and  

527
00:52:32,880 –> 00:52:41,100
refused them and then one day after they’ve become 
friends and uh he had been visiting time and in  

528
00:52:41,100 –> 00:52:48,960
time again he finally got our cocktail over the 
surf and out to his boat and brought it home and  

529
00:52:49,560 –> 00:52:55,260
started to essentially reverse into the reverse 
engineering and he figured out a recipe that he  

530
00:52:55,260 –> 00:53:02,460
felt was pretty close and uh brought it in to 
the bar the next day and shared it with her  

531
00:53:03,060 –> 00:53:08,520
and um then shared it with the rest of the 
bar patrons and they all actually liked  

532
00:53:08,520 –> 00:53:14,160
his recipe a little bit more oh damn um and 
that’s what this recipe eventually came into  

533
00:53:14,160 –> 00:53:21,480
uh I do understand that he’s always given her 
credit for this her name was Daphne Henderson  

534
00:53:22,920 –> 00:53:30,840
um and so I feel like that’s kind of you know 
that’s cute that despite all the trouble that  

535
00:53:30,840 –> 00:53:36,480
she gave him about finding what this or what this 
recipe was going to be he’s still giving her the  

536
00:53:36,480 –> 00:53:42,780
credit that you do yeah um so I just added 
after the ounce of orange juice I added an  

537
00:53:42,780 –> 00:53:49,500
ounce of the coconut cream and now I’m 
gonna add an ounce of pineapple juice

538
00:53:51,660 –> 00:53:55,200
oh I’m sorry four ounces of the pound yeah 
four ounces of pineapple is my mistake  

539
00:53:55,800 –> 00:54:01,560
for one cocktail and normally you can make two 
cocktails in one Shaker but because this is a  

540
00:54:01,560 –> 00:54:05,700
sizeable a sizable cocktail the four ounces of 
pineapple juice you would recommend if you’re  

541
00:54:05,700 –> 00:54:10,140
making both of them to make them in two separate 
shakers or make them one after another yeah  

542
00:54:10,140 –> 00:54:15,660
um it’s going to be a little full otherwise um 
how many rooms distilleries were there in New  

543
00:54:15,660 –> 00:54:22,800
England by the mid 1700s 100 rum distilleries in 
New England in the 1700s I don’t know if there’s  

544
00:54:22,800 –> 00:54:26,940
a hundred distilleries in New England today like 
I mean there probably are but it’s like really  

545
00:54:26,940 –> 00:54:33,300
and at the time the 13 colonies the population 
at that time was 1.5 million so that means there  

546
00:54:33,300 –> 00:54:40,560
was one Distillery for every 15 000 people is 
that crazy that’s smart like like it was like  

547
00:54:40,560 –> 00:54:47,820
New England was a rum hotbed like people don’t 
people don’t know this crazy so after the four  

548
00:54:47,820 –> 00:54:52,200
ounces of pineapple juice I just added two ounces 
of a Pusser’s blue label you could probably make  

549
00:54:52,200 –> 00:54:59,400
this with the gunpowder or the 15 year but uh 
the traditional recipe calls for the blue label  

550
00:54:59,940 –> 00:55:06,300
and then I’m gonna prepare my glassware because 
you always want to make sure your glassware is  

551
00:55:06,300 –> 00:55:11,880
all set to go before you add ice and start 
diluting your beverage yeah it’s over here

552
00:55:13,980 –> 00:55:17,700
yeah oh yeah I threw it was in there

553
00:55:20,520 –> 00:55:24,960
um but you know what I don’t 
have a suitable thank you

554
00:55:35,760 –> 00:55:38,460
and our little maraschino cherries

555
00:55:41,760 –> 00:55:43,800
these are made by filthy I believe

556
00:55:45,900 –> 00:55:52,260
I believe not marriage yeah they really yeah 
the color the colors yeah we are not fans of  

557
00:55:52,260 –> 00:55:57,120
maraschino cherries maraschino cherries are 
for Shirley temples um there are much better  

558
00:55:57,120 –> 00:56:00,900
cocktail cherries out there nowadays and 
actually we have looked artery here because  

559
00:56:02,160 –> 00:56:07,200
um use one of those so I’m gonna make 
basically a flag but with a pineapple  

560
00:56:07,200 –> 00:56:13,980
instead of an orange which is essentially 
just wrapping the pineapple around the Cherry  

561
00:56:14,760 –> 00:56:20,700
and then sticking that right 
through there and he’s gonna

562
00:56:25,800 –> 00:56:33,300
put a little wedge here to put it on the side 
of the glass give it a hole and now that I got  

563
00:56:33,300 –> 00:56:38,640
my garnished it’s time to share with you the 
other fun part of a true painkiller which is  

564
00:56:39,660 –> 00:56:47,460
crush ice um they make these handy dandy little 
burlap canvas Stacks that you can then fillify  

565
00:56:47,460 –> 00:56:53,100
and take a mallet smash the heck out of it 
I already did that because it would make a  

566
00:56:53,100 –> 00:56:58,500
racket if you want to do this at home you can 
use a Ziploc bag you can put a towel around it  

567
00:56:58,500 –> 00:57:02,760
though because the plastic can get kind of holes 
in it you can use a small cast iron pan or small  

568
00:57:02,760 –> 00:57:06,360
pan to whale away at it it’s a nice way to get 
a little aggression out at the end of your week  

569
00:57:07,140 –> 00:57:13,440
um to crush up some ice and you’ll see he 
is really kind of it’s a lot of whenever  

570
00:57:13,440 –> 00:57:17,460
you use crushed ice you’re really filling 
the glass completely with crushed ice um

571
00:57:20,220 –> 00:57:30,180
and then we’ll fill our sacred twins you guys all 
got this whole thing right England loving attacks  

572
00:57:30,180 –> 00:57:35,220
on molasses you’re paying attention hey all right 
yeah we did kind of give that one away huh oh wait  

573
00:57:35,220 –> 00:57:41,640
I did that was all right that’s okay now Phyllis 
says the Soggy dollar Beach Bar BVI has a live  

574
00:57:41,640 –> 00:57:46,560
webcam I do feel like I’ve know that I feel like 
I’ve heard something about that before that they  

575
00:57:46,560 –> 00:57:54,240
have a live webcam there that’s kind of funny all 
right now I’ve got my garnish on my iced goblet  

576
00:57:55,500 –> 00:57:58,320
and I added my ice and now 
you shake the heck out of it

577
00:58:03,300 –> 00:58:09,300
so another thing he’s thinking he’s not just 
going like this he’s kind of moving around and  

578
00:58:09,300 –> 00:58:13,200
so the idea when you’re shaking the cocktail is 
you actually really want to create chaos in there  

579
00:58:13,200 –> 00:58:18,660
so you don’t want the ice just going from top to 
bottom from top to bottom you want it hitting the  

580
00:58:18,660 –> 00:58:23,220
sides and pinging all around and so finding using 
your wrists a little bit and really getting your  

581
00:58:23,220 –> 00:58:28,560
arms in there is important for proper cocktail 
shaking and you don’t ever want a cocktail Shake  

582
00:58:28,560 –> 00:58:34,260
over the side like feel quiet and trying to be 
like don’t anyone watch me uncut like you want  

583
00:58:34,260 –> 00:58:37,740
to make a party out of it because when people hear 
that noise that’s where the party is so you want  

584
00:58:37,740 –> 00:58:42,840
to find your cocktail shaking Groove and smile and 
have a little dance and yeah get into it have a  

585
00:58:42,840 –> 00:58:49,260
good time that pitter patter of ice and the Shaker 
chain is like the most appetizing sound out there  

586
00:58:51,060 –> 00:58:59,280
look at that yeah well I think 
that’s yours first lady my lady

587
00:59:04,080 –> 00:59:09,840
cheers everyone I hope you made a nice little 
a beautiful cocktail for yourself as well

588
00:59:10,920 –> 00:59:15,600
let me turn our cameras on we 
can see what what’s going on  

589
00:59:16,860 –> 00:59:22,740
well since you’ve got a cocktail I’ll 
cheers you with the age 15. yeah cheers

590
00:59:31,800 –> 00:59:34,920
now I’m on vacation and it’s 
funny because we actually are  

591
00:59:34,920 –> 00:59:39,060
going on vacation next week this is 
perfect starting our vacation off

592
00:59:43,320 –> 00:59:49,860
hey great job yes new immigrants from grain 
growing regions yes that is the reason why um rum  

593
00:59:49,860 –> 00:59:55,140
kind of lost on popularity the rum shortage caused 
by wartime use of molasses also was a thing for  

594
00:59:55,140 –> 01:00:02,040
sure but that kind of happened you know a little 
bit a little bit earlier than that um the great  

595
01:00:02,040 –> 01:00:05,460
molasses blood in Boston had nothing to do with 
it but I just had to squeeze that in somewhere

596
01:00:07,560 –> 01:00:09,600
they ran out of a loungers no

597
01:00:12,720 –> 01:00:15,480
all right now we’re ready to go happy hour time

598
01:00:17,580 –> 01:00:25,680
yeah anybody that would like to just chat with 
us yeah get on video to be an analyst and then  

599
01:00:25,680 –> 01:00:29,280
you can turn your camera on and unmute 
yourself and yeah and I’ll just I’m gonna  

600
01:00:29,280 –> 01:00:33,300
invite everyone to be a panelist and if you 
get invited and you don’t want to turn your  

601
01:00:33,300 –> 01:00:37,860
camera on and you just want to stay the way you 
are and keep listening that’s totally fine too  

602
01:00:38,820 –> 01:00:42,660
um and if you missed the 
invitation we’ll come around again  

603
01:00:43,200 –> 01:00:48,240
just you know let me know just say hey I missed 
it can you make me can you invite me today

604
01:00:51,240 –> 01:00:53,820
gotta gotta finder where I 
can do this first here we go

605
01:01:09,740 –> 01:01:10,740
[Music]

606
01:01:10,740 –> 01:01:13,620
yeah there’s more left than I thought lucky news

607
01:01:22,080 –> 01:01:29,340
okay hey compadre what’s up guys Cheers Cheers  

608
01:01:29,940 –> 01:01:41,460
cheers oh what am I what am I drinking out of 
my uh Glenn Karen cool nice love it hey Zach  

609
01:01:42,900 –> 01:01:50,940
hey there I’m getting set up still a little bit 
no worries Jay did you try all three of these  

610
01:01:52,200 –> 01:01:58,140
um I’m gonna try uh after I’m done with the gun 
smoke I’m gonna hit the 15th well so I’m trying  

611
01:01:58,140 –> 01:02:05,520
to enjoy this at uh Max you know I like I like 
sipping that slow and I just slide it over right  

612
01:02:06,600 –> 01:02:12,600
yeah for sure and then to get into that 
15 and really uh enjoy it with y’all  

613
01:02:13,680 –> 01:02:18,240
again I’m glad that the Aged one 
was uh a little bit more tear-liking  

614
01:02:19,320 –> 01:02:26,460
yeah um did it help to add um water into the 
first two at all Jen did you like them a little  

615
01:02:26,460 –> 01:02:32,880
more when you did that uh yeah I think I think 
too I haven’t drank like straight liquor in so  

616
01:02:32,880 –> 01:02:39,660
long yeah it smacked me in the face a little 
bit but uh the third one was a lot smoother I  

617
01:02:39,660 –> 01:02:46,320
did end up adding a little water I also ended 
up a little Coke Zero too okay Ramen Cokes are  

618
01:02:46,320 –> 01:02:51,180
delicious they sure are I really like I like the 
dark and stormys with ginger beer yeah my favorite  

619
01:02:52,800 –> 01:02:59,580
how do I feel like there’s a similar story 
about dark and stormy being proprietary too  

620
01:03:00,360 –> 01:03:05,220
maybe I’m not sure if it’s trademarked but I 
do feel like there’s a very strong sentiment  

621
01:03:05,220 –> 01:03:15,780
that that has to be um goslings is that right 
maybe it is Gosling that does sound familiar and  

622
01:03:15,780 –> 01:03:20,640
now that you’re saying it intended to be yes 
yeah anyway that does kind of sound familiar  

623
01:03:20,640 –> 01:03:23,820
wait do you remember do you 
remember your joke for Zach

624
01:03:25,860 –> 01:03:30,600
remember last but we last month at the disco 
party we were like wait we have a rum joke  

625
01:03:30,600 –> 01:03:35,940
for Zach but we’re not going to tell you until 
next I kind of remember it but I don’t remember

626
01:03:39,300 –> 01:03:46,200
oh yeah oh I don’t remember how it like yeah 
we’re building it up too much it’s not that good  

627
01:03:46,200 –> 01:03:50,280
don’t forget about it it’s not that bad though 
either you’re building it up we’re building it  

628
01:03:50,280 –> 01:03:57,540
up he’s gonna look it up all right sounds good I’m 
sure it’ll be worth the wait [Music] how are you  

629
01:03:57,540 –> 01:04:01,860
guys doing do you have any fun summer vacations 
taking any summer vacations what’s everyone up to

630
01:04:04,260 –> 01:04:11,520
uh no nothing over eating over here for for us 
we’re being boring just suffering through the  

631
01:04:11,520 –> 01:04:17,520
humid Summers of Massachusetts today was actually 
the first nice day we’ve had in a while it has  

632
01:04:17,520 –> 01:04:25,440
rained if like it feels like we were in Knoxville 
we uh we went to a Sox game last night and sat in  

633
01:04:25,440 –> 01:04:31,800
the rain the whole time ah but we were the fourth 
row away like fourth row off of Home Base so  

634
01:04:33,780 –> 01:04:39,000
yeah yeah I don’t know what works in in the summer 
in Massachusetts I’m like would I rather sit in  

635
01:04:39,000 –> 01:04:44,580
the rain or would I rather fit into like hot humid 
grossness without the rain like I don’t know like  

636
01:04:44,580 –> 01:04:51,660
yeah I guess it gets a little old being wet after 
a little while though yes because it’s not for  

637
01:04:51,660 –> 01:04:55,320
a little while because they keep taking a break 
and taking a break and you’re just sitting there  

638
01:04:55,320 –> 01:05:00,960
getting rained on now and they’re all inside like 
hanging out waiting for the rain to stop you know  

639
01:05:00,960 –> 01:05:07,020
well luckily we didn’t have any rain delays 
but uh yeah yeah I was surprised though it  

640
01:05:07,020 –> 01:05:14,220
came down kind of heavy a couple times yeah 
oh are you doing read chat yeah so everyone  

641
01:05:14,220 –> 01:05:20,820
because the spelling is pretty important 
component of it oh so if you want to spell  

642
01:05:20,820 –> 01:05:29,280
your name that way from now on yes definitely 
I’ll do that at like Starbucks or something  

643
01:05:29,280 –> 01:05:38,040
that that carry like the drink sorry what 
yeah like the drink I need to name your son  

644
01:05:38,040 –> 01:05:43,560
that spelling of Zachary yeah you can have 
a juice factory Junior not a junior oh yeah  

645
01:05:45,000 –> 01:05:52,380
so it’s about spelled the same 10 technically no 
but you know worry about it explaining that to his  

646
01:05:52,380 –> 01:06:02,160
classmates in like eighth grade well my son yeah 
he works at Chippendales oh gosh horrible horrible  

647
01:06:02,160 –> 01:06:09,000
no that’s why we didn’t learn about like the 
Boston the Molasses blood and stuff because they  

648
01:06:09,000 –> 01:06:13,560
just like don’t know how to talk to kids about 
about alcohol yeah and so they’re just like yeah  

649
01:06:13,560 –> 01:06:18,300
yeah the Tea Party yeah that just they’re like 
molasses a lot they put it under pancakes you  

650
01:06:18,300 –> 01:06:24,180
know when I found out about like how big rum was 
in Massachusetts and I was like how like I lived  

651
01:06:24,180 –> 01:06:28,500
there my whole life how did I not know that 
like rum was a Massachusetts thing like yeah

652
01:06:29,340 –> 01:06:36,720
it was kind of like it flowed the other way with 
the great Molasses Flood because the reason that  

653
01:06:36,720 –> 01:06:44,220
happened was a combination of I think it was a 
combination of prohibition was about to drop and  

654
01:06:44,220 –> 01:06:51,300
um they needed it as a to make something for 
Munitions for World War One because that was  

655
01:06:51,300 –> 01:06:57,720
like all artillery War right and that was part 
of it is it was propellant or an explosive or  

656
01:06:57,720 –> 01:07:05,040
something like that where they were distilling 
down the um molasses into I think ethanol  

657
01:07:05,040 –> 01:07:12,240
for the Weaponry instead of foreign alcohol 
instead of just for consumption yeah literally  

658
01:07:13,740 –> 01:07:18,780
yeah yeah that would be surprising I want to do 
a quick PSA because I forgot just in case some  

659
01:07:18,780 –> 01:07:24,180
of the others aren’t on video need to leave 
at some point sure um upcoming sixth Scout  

660
01:07:24,180 –> 01:07:30,360
kids stuff coming up next month is Oktoberfest 
which is always a really fun one because Evan  

661
01:07:30,360 –> 01:07:36,420
and I put on our journal and Lederhosen we don’t 
like to be cheesy at all that’s not what we do  

662
01:07:37,260 –> 01:07:41,100
um but that’s a fun one so there’s going to be 
four different American craft beers with our  

663
01:07:41,100 –> 01:07:44,940
oktoberfestyle beers and some pretzels and some 
Koozies and all sorts of stuff so that will be  

664
01:07:44,940 –> 01:07:52,440
kind of a fun festive one yes and then in October 
we’re doing an American single malt exploration  

665
01:07:52,440 –> 01:07:57,720
which is so exciting because American single malt 
is a recent designation it was just made in 2021  

666
01:07:57,720 –> 01:08:01,920
like what officially an American single malt 
is and there is Makers we’re starting to get  

667
01:08:01,920 –> 01:08:06,600
into this and so we have six different American 
single malts and they’re hard to find there’s  

668
01:08:06,600 –> 01:08:10,500
not a lot of American single males that have great 
distribution yet they’re more premium they’re more  

669
01:08:10,500 –> 01:08:14,940
expensive so it’s hard to really get into this 
new kind of burgeoning slowly growing category  

670
01:08:14,940 –> 01:08:18,900
so we’re really really excited um and we already 
have three of the makers locked down and some  

671
01:08:18,900 –> 01:08:22,800
of the makers are going to join us but because 
they’re excited to talk to people and really get  

672
01:08:22,800 –> 01:08:29,280
to talk about American single malts and growing 
industry category yeah um and then November is  

673
01:08:29,280 –> 01:08:34,500
wine November’s wine and then and then there’ll be 
some theme related to it we haven’t figured that  

674
01:08:34,500 –> 01:08:39,960
out yet yeah I haven’t done the job yet and um 
and then in December we’ll do our holiday Mixology  

675
01:08:39,960 –> 01:08:45,840
party which is always also very fun we’ll make 
three different holiday cocktails and you can bash  

676
01:08:45,840 –> 01:08:50,880
them and make them for your uh holiday parties 
yeah yeah so we have some exciting stuff coming  

677
01:08:50,880 –> 01:08:58,020
up we’re very very excited for the future to close 
out this year we’re in the Lederhosen reminds me  

678
01:08:58,020 –> 01:09:05,040
that you did this last year which makes me think 
as SipScout been going on for a year now it has  

679
01:09:05,040 –> 01:09:15,360
been yeah okay all right yeah September was our 
first one uh and that was was the first one no we  

680
01:09:15,360 –> 01:09:20,040
didn’t do October Fest in September we didn’t know 
in October right we did kibble thought wines for  

681
01:09:20,040 –> 01:09:24,900
the first one that’s right yeah yeah yeah I know 
it’s crazy it’s been a year I can’t believe it’s  

682
01:09:24,900 –> 01:09:29,760
been we’ve had some good good kits under our belts 
yeah we’re keeping the Oktoberfest on every year  

683
01:09:30,420 –> 01:09:35,160
um and the holiday Mixology every year because 
we feel like those are forgotten and those are  

684
01:09:35,160 –> 01:09:40,980
just you know and we like getting to see the new 
Oktoberfest beers each year is as more and more  

685
01:09:40,980 –> 01:09:48,420
American you know Brewers are starting to make 
those yeah because we really like those styles  

686
01:09:48,420 –> 01:09:54,240
of beers and we want them to continue making 
them what kind of pretzel are you going to put  

687
01:09:54,240 –> 01:09:59,040
in the package boy I don’t know it’s hard to beat 
the those ones we had last year yeah we really  

688
01:09:59,040 –> 01:10:04,020
love those those are really good yeah they’re 
made in Pennsylvania Dutch Country and they’re  

689
01:10:04,020 –> 01:10:10,920
hard pretzels and they’re just searches I don’t 
know what it is really a hard pretzel person I’m  

690
01:10:10,920 –> 01:10:15,840
definitely more of a soft pretzel person if we get 
ambitious maybe we’ll uh make soft pretzels make

691
01:10:16,380 –> 01:10:29,640
so if we get uh ambitious we’ll have 
to we’ll have to Loop you in maybe  

692
01:10:29,640 –> 01:10:36,360
next year oh I my advice is don’t 
do it I remember the tribulation

693
01:10:38,640 –> 01:10:45,240
hey you asked about vacations and um one of the 
vacations I took uh nearly 10 years ago probably  

694
01:10:45,240 –> 01:10:51,960
even more now was to the British Virgin Islands 
where we went to the Pusser’s Distillery you did  

695
01:10:51,960 –> 01:11:00,840
oh yeah tell us about it that’s cool um so we’re 
we’re out and about like sailing we’re literally  

696
01:11:00,840 –> 01:11:07,800
sailing around the British Virgin Islands and 
someone says um hey you know like every bar that  

697
01:11:07,800 –> 01:11:15,600
you go up to uh procedures rum is the rum that 
everyone is using to make uh the rum drinks and  

698
01:11:15,600 –> 01:11:21,120
then we find out oh the The Distillery is out here 
why don’t we look it up and so we sailed to the  

699
01:11:21,120 –> 01:11:28,920
island that had it and then we uh went to it took 
a just like a little uh tour not not an in-depth  

700
01:11:28,920 –> 01:11:36,660
tour had a cocktail outside the uh Distillery and 
then uh we went back to sailing but it was the  

701
01:11:36,660 –> 01:11:42,120
craziest day it was like a neighborhood like hey 
let’s just go to the brewery that’s over there on  

702
01:11:42,120 –> 01:11:48,300
that island so we sail to the island it’s just 
yeah so nice that’s lovely we’re we’re trying  

703
01:11:48,300 –> 01:11:52,440
to get away to go to the crew the Creator this 
fall I don’t know if it’s gonna happen this year  

704
01:11:52,440 –> 01:11:57,600
but we have a time share actually that we’re 
doing we get the property to shop around and  

705
01:11:57,600 –> 01:12:01,620
check out new places and so we he’s never been 
to the Caribbean and I’ve only been once yeah  

706
01:12:02,160 –> 01:12:07,800
um but yeah we’d like to get out there and 
try some rums and hang out on the beach we’ll  

707
01:12:07,800 –> 01:12:12,420
see yeah Beach vacation is going up on the in 
the in the western part of the country where  

708
01:12:13,020 –> 01:12:18,000
you know Mexico or Hawaii because you could do it 
in one flight and you never went to Hawaii because  

709
01:12:18,000 –> 01:12:26,160
your parents weren’t yeah as an adult I did but 
yeah yeah but even when I was in my 20s it just  

710
01:12:26,160 –> 01:12:32,340
seemed like so much more of a pain to fly all the 
way to you know Miami and then fly somewhere went  

711
01:12:32,340 –> 01:12:40,320
in yeah yeah I feel like the Caribbean and Hawaii 
are the two Coastal like Beach Island things for  

712
01:12:40,320 –> 01:12:46,740
the different coasts yeah for sure but it looks 
cool and I’d like to go to some rum distillers  

713
01:12:46,740 –> 01:12:52,920
yeah me too oh yeah if we come out to go to the 
Caribbean are you guys familiar with the Big East  

714
01:12:54,000 –> 01:13:02,820
in Western Mass I’ve heard of it oh no you 
haven’t been you have to go oh what is this  

715
01:13:02,820 –> 01:13:10,080
it’s it’s the eastern states Exposition and 
so it’s like a huge bear and it’s literally  

716
01:13:10,080 –> 01:13:15,900
all five New England states participate and 
like people come from internationally to go  

717
01:13:15,900 –> 01:13:19,920
to this like people fly in from like Europe to 
go to the Big East coming in trophy for just a  

718
01:13:19,920 –> 01:13:25,620
second so she tells this story I’ve heard 
this story and nevertheless not a single  

719
01:13:25,620 –> 01:13:32,580
person that I know or that she knows that isn’t 
from Western Mass has ever heard of it not true

720
01:13:32,580 –> 01:13:40,140
but the coolest thing is they have these permanent 
structures these permanent buildings like there’s  

721
01:13:40,140 –> 01:13:44,280
a Vermont building there’s the main building 
there’s a New Hampshire building and it’s like all  

722
01:13:44,280 –> 01:13:50,040
the things that make those States the states like 
the foods and the like trades and the like so you  

723
01:13:50,040 –> 01:13:54,060
go to the main building and you get like a main 
baked potato and you go to the Vermont building  

724
01:13:54,060 –> 01:14:00,120
and you get apple pie with cheddar cheese you and 
they have great music acts and it’s just awesome  

725
01:14:01,260 –> 01:14:05,100
it’s the best so but he’s never been and he 
teases me about it all the time so we gotta  

726
01:14:05,100 –> 01:14:09,840
go not all the time if we come home and 
go to it we’ll let you know you can drive  

727
01:14:09,840 –> 01:14:15,960
down and meet actually yeah I’ll do some 
good drinking yeah well probably not at  

728
01:14:15,960 –> 01:14:19,200
the Big E I don’t know whether they have 
yeah they’re good craft stuff at a fair  

729
01:14:19,200 –> 01:14:25,500
that seems more like a eating Adventure which 
I’m okay with yeah deep fried everything yeah  

730
01:14:26,580 –> 01:14:35,280
uh I’m sure they’ll be what is it um apple cider 
donut yeah apple cider donuts oh it’s almost time

731
01:14:35,280 –> 01:14:43,980
that was like one of the ways we got into 
Massachusetts culture was by like you know  

732
01:14:43,980 –> 01:14:48,960
researching online it’s like all right we gotta 
go find like try all these donut places we’ve  

733
01:14:48,960 –> 01:14:54,120
been to a dozen by now in our five years 
up here and all the little farm stands  

734
01:14:54,120 –> 01:14:59,100
and stuff like that so those are great it’s 
always the farm stands that are the best ones

735
01:15:02,520 –> 01:15:11,520
that’s not like you know it’s just good sugar 
donuts yeah the ones that we got at that one  

736
01:15:11,520 –> 01:15:22,320
place [Laughter] thank you those were okay 
and those are the ones I grew up with but  

737
01:15:22,320 –> 01:15:26,880
I agree going back I was a little bit like man 
they’re not quite happily enough but whatever  

738
01:15:27,600 –> 01:15:34,920
apple cider donuts with rum would be oh 
yeah like a rum glaze over the top yeah  

739
01:15:36,060 –> 01:15:44,880
yeah do you guys do hot buttered rum in the winter 
no man we have a recipe on our website it’s like  

740
01:15:44,880 –> 01:15:49,260
it’s the best hot buttered rum I’ve ever had 
and so basically you make like a batter and  

741
01:15:49,260 –> 01:15:53,160
you just keep it in your freezer all season 
long and then whenever you want it you just  

742
01:15:53,160 –> 01:15:57,780
put you know two ounces of rum in your glass 
put two like tablespoons of a batter in fill  

743
01:15:57,780 –> 01:16:04,560
it with hot water and mix it up and you have 
this like creamy delicious amazingness all  

744
01:16:04,560 –> 01:16:10,920
winter long especially in snowy areas it’s the 
batter is essentially consists of real healthy  

745
01:16:10,920 –> 01:16:19,680
vanilla ice cream butter are you moving on to 
the Aged nice excellent vanilla ice cream butter  

746
01:16:21,240 –> 01:16:30,060
um oh he’s pouring it over ice cube fancy day 
cinnamon nutmeg and I think that’s it isn’t  

747
01:16:30,060 –> 01:16:36,780
that whipped cream basically the real butter beer 
yeah it’s even butterier than butter it’s so good  

748
01:16:36,780 –> 01:16:41,760
cream in it too it’s so good though and if you 
keep it you would have a batch in your freezer  

749
01:16:41,760 –> 01:16:45,120
like you know around the holidays people just 
kind of show up or like you have people over  

750
01:16:45,120 –> 01:16:48,960
and it’s like such an easy like hosting thing 
to be like who wants hot buttered butter to them  

751
01:16:48,960 –> 01:16:53,460
and you just like go in your freezer and like get 
them some whip it together yeah it’s very sneaky  

752
01:16:53,460 –> 01:16:59,220
oh no see the other weekend I had 
some extra time on my hands and  

753
01:16:59,880 –> 01:17:09,000
um had found some discounted Cod at the grocery 
store and made fish and chips from scratch but  

754
01:17:09,000 –> 01:17:13,260
but it’s worth it it’s really good but the 
problem is now she knows I can make french  

755
01:17:13,260 –> 01:17:19,920
fries you know speaking of like whipping something 
out yeah every heavy stuff and so it’s like oh no  

756
01:17:21,000 –> 01:17:28,140
a little bit it’s it’s Auto blurry 
yeah maybe put it where your face is  

757
01:17:29,460 –> 01:17:35,460
yeah we’re doing it for a moment 
but we’ll we’ll work on it but yeah  

758
01:17:36,780 –> 01:17:43,200
that’s that’s a feat well done fish and 
chips thank you and told me coleslaw too  

759
01:17:43,200 –> 01:17:52,020
oh and the target deep fry or air fry or 
what was the Dutch oven with peanut oil  

760
01:17:52,680 –> 01:18:00,660
drop those suckers in uh all credit goes to uh 
Jay Kenji Lopez alt and Sirius eats because that’s  

761
01:18:00,660 –> 01:18:11,100
where I got yeah lovely lovely place um are you 
familiar with the existence of malt vinegar powder  

762
01:18:12,360 –> 01:18:15,780
I’ve heard of vinegar powder I had 
not heard of malt vinegar powder  

763
01:18:15,780 –> 01:18:22,440
so it is fantastic with fish and chips 
because it doesn’t get everything soggy

764
01:18:25,800 –> 01:18:33,720
yeah definitely oh beautiful beautiful look 
at that crisp on that fish yeah well done wow  

765
01:18:35,340 –> 01:18:41,940
yum but yeah a good feeling if we went to you 
know got hot buttered rum it would be about  

766
01:18:41,940 –> 01:18:48,120
the same like oh now we know we can do this thing 
and this is dangerous dangerous knowledge to have

767
01:18:57,000 –> 01:19:03,720
oh gosh and it’s lost all winter yeah so it’s 
perfect I don’t have as much of an excuse here  

768
01:19:03,720 –> 01:19:10,860
in Arizona but when it’s snowing right here 
yeah uh one one of the things that has happened  

769
01:19:10,860 –> 01:19:19,020
uh since uh I started Living in San Francisco I 
don’t live there anymore um but rum and rum bars  

770
01:19:19,020 –> 01:19:25,440
became a thing and it was amazing that that by 
the end of my tenure there there was there were  

771
01:19:25,440 –> 01:19:31,380
a good handful of rum bars that were making some 
of the most delicious rum cocktails that you could  

772
01:19:31,380 –> 01:19:39,240
find in the world yeah and and when I got back 
from that um that British Virgin Islands trip  

773
01:19:40,440 –> 01:19:49,380
um Smuggler’s Cove I went to Smuggler’s Cove with 
brand new eyes and and Zach um what Smuggler’s  

774
01:19:49,380 –> 01:19:54,540
Cove had done and I didn’t really know it is 
they took a signature drink from the Caribbean  

775
01:19:54,540 –> 01:20:00,960
and they made it there at that bar by professional 
mixologists and so I would have a painkiller I was  

776
01:20:00,960 –> 01:20:05,940
drinking painkillers in the British Virgin Islands 
like there was no tomorrow and then I went to San  

777
01:20:05,940 –> 01:20:11,640
Francisco and I went to Smuggler’s Cove and they 
did it with such precision and Artistry I was like  

778
01:20:11,640 –> 01:20:18,120
this is a brand new uh painkiller wow and then 
I looked up all their drinks and it’s like yeah  

779
01:20:18,120 –> 01:20:24,840
that that’s the drink from Trinidad that’s the 
drink from Jamaica that’s not oh that’s really  

780
01:20:24,840 –> 01:20:29,820
impressive when they can take something that 
like already exists and just dial it to 11 and  

781
01:20:29,820 –> 01:20:35,460
you’re like it’s like unlocking a new level you’re 
like this is a new thing yeah but it was it was  

782
01:20:35,460 –> 01:20:42,420
a hidden uh luxury that I didn’t even know that 
I was privy to when I would go to that bar yeah  

783
01:20:43,020 –> 01:20:49,980
you don’t realize what you have till you 
miss it yeah [Music] the bar itself too was  

784
01:20:51,060 –> 01:20:56,820
um basically invisible from the outside yeah 
that’s one of those places you can walk right by  

785
01:20:56,820 –> 01:21:01,440
and you don’t even realize like the coolest thing 
ever is in there the only indication that there  

786
01:21:01,440 –> 01:21:11,700
was something there where there was a green light 
and a red light indicating port and starboard and  

787
01:21:11,700 –> 01:21:17,340
then when you go inside you enter the ship on the 
main deck and then there’s like an eagle’s nest  

788
01:21:17,340 –> 01:21:23,160
and then you go down underneath into the hold 
of the ship no and so a whole thing felt like  

789
01:21:23,160 –> 01:21:30,180
a ship and the three stories wow yeah and and 
and that’s the other thing about San Francisco  

790
01:21:30,180 –> 01:21:39,480
rum bars is they are all uh thematically tiki 
bars and uh Evan I don’t know if you went to  

791
01:21:40,560 –> 01:21:48,240
um last rights did you ever go there 
I did that was down like in the Castro  

792
01:21:48,960 –> 01:21:55,380
area right Castro the ghost triangle yeah yeah 
yeah yeah and again it’s one of those places that  

793
01:21:55,380 –> 01:22:00,360
are trying to compete with all the other rum bars 
that are you know dramatically Tiki I love the  

794
01:22:00,360 –> 01:22:07,800
rumors that happen in San Francisco well in Trader 
fans in on Clement is one of the oldest it is the  

795
01:22:07,800 –> 01:22:13,560
oldest TP bar in the country actually it was like 
in the 50s that they opened and it’s still there  

796
01:22:13,560 –> 01:22:17,820
and operational and so you can go to Trader fans 
and it feels like it’s been there since the 50s  

797
01:22:17,820 –> 01:22:26,160
it smells like it up in there there’s history on 
the walls like um but they make great cocktails  

798
01:22:26,160 –> 01:22:32,160
and they they really were part of the bringing 
the tiki culture into the United States movement  

799
01:22:33,060 –> 01:22:39,420
um who was the one in the fight I did when 
it opened at five o’clock just the front part  

800
01:22:39,420 –> 01:22:44,700
which was again themed like you were in a boat 
in a ship in the hold of the ship to the point  

801
01:22:44,700 –> 01:22:52,140
that they even had like portholes and then there 
would be like either I can’t remember if it was  

802
01:22:52,140 –> 01:22:59,280
actual aquariums or just the TV screen with an 
aquarium and then they would set sail and for  

803
01:22:59,280 –> 01:23:04,860
the first half an hour or hour that was the only 
part that was open and then they would arrive at  

804
01:23:04,860 –> 01:23:08,940
the destination at the island and then they’d 
open the back part and you’d walk back there  

805
01:23:08,940 –> 01:23:15,960
and there would be like thatched Hut like roofs 
and like twinkling stars in the sky and like  

806
01:23:15,960 –> 01:23:22,320
little sand like I sounded really cheesy but 
it was done really well it was like it was yeah

807
01:23:22,320 –> 01:23:30,900
that’s not what you would think of in San 
Francisco but I do feel like it kind of  

808
01:23:30,900 –> 01:23:39,660
came around with the sailors coming back from 
you know the Pacific arena in World War II and  

809
01:23:39,660 –> 01:23:46,080
having become familiarized with like and 
appreciating like Island culture yeah uh  

810
01:23:46,080 –> 01:23:50,520
interesting like southeast Asia or maybe it was 
more around the return from people from Vietnam  

811
01:23:50,520 –> 01:23:54,780
yeah because a lot of them of course came in 
and out of the country through San Francisco

812
01:23:55,920 –> 01:24:02,160
would have come on because she has all this 
like deep knowledge of Like These Bars and  

813
01:24:02,160 –> 01:24:07,980
these people and I’m just like wait what what are 
you cool Nelson what no like both of the cocktails  

814
01:24:07,980 –> 01:24:13,860
she was brought up tonight I’m like I’ve never 
heard of them yeah cool I’ll try that one too  

815
01:24:15,600 –> 01:24:19,380
I was in this building that’s 100 
years old and we have a whole bunch  

816
01:24:19,380 –> 01:24:22,980
of historic pictures in the hallways 
and stuff and when the picture shows  

817
01:24:22,980 –> 01:24:31,020
the 1960s uh Tiki Bar that used to be at 
the corner of this building oh cool yeah

818
01:24:34,140 –> 01:24:37,800
um you know did we mention oh we did 
it was in the poll of a black hot day  

819
01:24:38,760 –> 01:24:43,620
because yeah we didn’t we didn’t that was the 
end of last week so I don’t think we did okay  

820
01:24:44,160 –> 01:24:54,060
edification blacktop day is a day that um marked 
the end of the 300 plus year history of the top  

821
01:24:54,060 –> 01:25:06,480
rations the sailors um a day that was a sad day 
for many sailors I’m sure yeah it was 1970. but  

822
01:25:06,480 –> 01:25:11,940
it was just at the end of last month July 31st 
yeah yeah but it yeah so from the 1600s until  

823
01:25:11,940 –> 01:25:20,940
1970 they maybe always got a ration of rum every 
single day crazy Donuts you imagine like the  

824
01:25:20,940 –> 01:25:26,460
withdrawals come and then like it’s low level but 
still like get out of the Navy it’s like oh oh no  

825
01:25:26,460 –> 01:25:34,860
oh no one of the reasons they say they ended it 
actually was like the advancements in Warfare  

826
01:25:34,860 –> 01:25:40,200
and what Sailors have to do like you actually 
need your brain to be more sharp rather than  

827
01:25:40,200 –> 01:25:45,600
just like your arms and your body to be like and 
your courage and your courage like you know you’re  

828
01:25:45,600 –> 01:25:49,080
like pushing buttons and actually thinking and 
looking at screens and doing so they were like  

829
01:25:49,080 –> 01:25:53,400
we need their brains to be a little more sharp 
we can’t be giving them things they don’t have  

830
01:25:53,400 –> 01:25:58,440
to haul up the anchor anymore they just yeah 
hit the winch yeah yeah I I just assumed that  

831
01:25:58,440 –> 01:26:04,320
they were all alcoholics in the uh daily ration 
was just to get them at normal yeah exactly yeah

832
01:26:06,480 –> 01:26:10,680
you know the more you all talk about this and 
just how involved it was I think back to like  

833
01:26:11,220 –> 01:26:18,060
uh when prior to the Caribbean the movie 
first came out right every everyone wears  

834
01:26:18,060 –> 01:26:22,440
all the rum gone you know everybody was 
throwing that around as like a funny joke  

835
01:26:22,440 –> 01:26:27,720
and stuff it’s like no that that like really 
was a a big deal a concern a problem right  

836
01:26:28,620 –> 01:26:35,460
because if everybody was going through 
withdrawals from a pint of rum every day

837
01:26:36,120 –> 01:26:46,800
eight ounces of rum and most 
people are just like yeah  

838
01:26:48,120 –> 01:26:54,600
guys I mean that would be like one more of 
these drinking all of these yeah every day  

839
01:26:54,600 –> 01:26:59,340
like and just throwing it back or two of the 
big ones I guess yeah just a lot all at once  

840
01:26:59,340 –> 01:27:09,540
that’s a lot like imagine drinking two of 
these every day in like two swallows but

841
01:27:09,540 –> 01:27:10,680
oh gosh

842
01:27:12,600 –> 01:27:19,740
she was like oh I’m just like I’m an ICU 
nurse so I’m just trying to think of that  

843
01:27:19,740 –> 01:27:27,420
and do it yeah sure any job that like 
part of your job is you get some booze

844
01:27:27,420 –> 01:27:36,300
I mean if I go to walk out of the hospital 
and they gave me like some Romanos I was  

845
01:27:36,300 –> 01:27:39,900
leaving I would be like yeah this is 
a great deal like yeah right yeah at  

846
01:27:39,900 –> 01:27:44,880
the end of your day yeah and then you 
can just hook up the IV yourself yeah  

847
01:27:44,880 –> 01:27:48,720
rehydrate for tomorrow in the morning 
and be like okay I’m ready to go again

848
01:27:51,120 –> 01:27:57,360
you know you had talked about vacations and like 
vacations surrounding booze and stuff and one of  

849
01:27:57,360 –> 01:28:02,460
the things that I did over the last month is I 
went to the Grand Tetons and I went to Glacier  

850
01:28:02,460 –> 01:28:07,020
National Park and while I was out there I 
was going to drink as the Romans too and I  

851
01:28:07,020 –> 01:28:13,140
got a bottle of Yellowstone Yellowstone whiskey 
and never had Yellowstone before and um it’s a  

852
01:28:13,140 –> 01:28:21,060
cheap whiskey however uh value for Taste is pretty 
good in my area yeah I’ve had it I haven’t either  

853
01:28:22,080 –> 01:28:26,160
um I recommend it I mean it’s it’s 45 
or something like that and so you’re  

854
01:28:26,160 –> 01:28:31,080
not going to make a mistake um but as far as 
you know my collection goes I was like this  

855
01:28:31,080 –> 01:28:37,080
is a pretty good dollar for Taste whiskey 
and so we were around the campfire passing  

856
01:28:37,080 –> 01:28:43,380
around you know a nice little metal cup of 
Yellowstone whiskey and set the batter yeah  

857
01:28:44,220 –> 01:28:48,240
yeah we’re going next week we are going with 
some friends they have a houseboat on Lake  

858
01:28:48,240 –> 01:28:54,900
Powell and so we’re going to be on a houseboat 
for seven days with family friends of his we  

859
01:28:54,900 –> 01:28:57,900
like kind of grew up with and their parents 
are like kind of like second parents to him  

860
01:28:57,900 –> 01:29:03,300
and so we’ll have zero service for seven days and 
just bringing everything with us that we need and

861
01:29:08,400 –> 01:29:13,680
so one of those uh one of the funny stories 
from my British Virgin Island story that I had  

862
01:29:13,680 –> 01:29:19,320
told earlier is that for I don’t know 10 days or 
something I didn’t wear shoes because we were on  

863
01:29:19,320 –> 01:29:24,360
the boat we were going to Islands doing all this 
and so you put on some flippy floppies I was never  

864
01:29:24,360 –> 01:29:31,320
never had my foot in a shoe and so after after 
10 days of being out there on out in the water  

865
01:29:32,640 –> 01:29:39,180
um I get back to the land and I go to put 
on my shoes and I can’t because my feet had  

866
01:29:39,180 –> 01:29:45,060
swelled in size because I didn’t have a shoe 
constantly compressing my foot pressing them  

867
01:29:45,060 –> 01:29:50,160
or whatever I was doing as I was going out there 
and you know going on the beach and stuff and so  

868
01:29:50,160 –> 01:29:58,320
my foot had gotten bigger and so Evan while you’re 
on vacation I dare you to not put on shoes and and  

869
01:29:58,320 –> 01:30:05,400
see if after 10 days your foot had gotten bigger 
I think that the salt water probably played a role  

870
01:30:05,400 –> 01:30:14,160
oh probably the salt maybe but I um I accept your 
challenge put any shoes on while we’re living on a  

871
01:30:14,160 –> 01:30:19,260
boat I can’t imagine we will but the funny thing 
is so we’re you got a lid on the boat for the  

872
01:30:19,260 –> 01:30:23,220
seven days and then as soon as we get off the boat 
we’re driving to Vegas because I’m speaking at a  

873
01:30:23,220 –> 01:30:27,600
conference and he’s coming to a conference with me 
a distilling conference and so we’re gonna have to  

874
01:30:27,600 –> 01:30:34,740
like I’m gonna immediately have to go from that to 
like heels and like proper like business attire so  

875
01:30:34,740 –> 01:30:39,240
it’s gonna be it’s gonna be a hard transition it’s 
gonna be a little much so if my feet swell I’ll  

876
01:30:39,240 –> 01:30:45,600
probably matter be in big trouble go shoe shopping 
in Vegas right that’s right we’ll see we’ll report  

877
01:30:45,600 –> 01:30:51,600
back we’ll let you know how it goes well we are 
oh listen to this speaking of Rama oh yeah so  

878
01:30:51,600 –> 01:30:57,780
also our six year anniversary is while we’re in 
Vegas and so there’s this Distillery called Lost  

879
01:30:57,780 –> 01:31:03,000
Spirits Distillery they started in La they had 
this like honestly I’ve been following them for a  

880
01:31:03,000 –> 01:31:09,960
long time it was almost look like like mini golf 
gone wild like Distillery style like just like  

881
01:31:09,960 –> 01:31:16,380
very themed very like it’s experiential but it 
kind of looks a little it’s like cheesy honestly  

882
01:31:17,100 –> 01:31:20,040
um but so they were doing that in La 
for a while and it’s a rum Distillery  

883
01:31:20,700 –> 01:31:26,160
and during the pandemic apparently they closed 
that down and they opened a new distillery in  

884
01:31:26,160 –> 01:31:30,120
Vegas but I don’t know where the heck they’re 
getting their money from I can’t wait to like  

885
01:31:30,120 –> 01:31:37,980
figure all this out but so they’ve opened this 
distillery in Vegas that is walking space wise as  

886
01:31:37,980 –> 01:31:43,620
big as a football field and it has like a Cirque 
du Soleil show that’s part of the experience but  

887
01:31:43,620 –> 01:31:47,760
it’s like a walk through Cirque du Soleil show 
so there’s things going on in all the corners  

888
01:31:47,760 –> 01:31:52,740
and there’s like acrobats and everything and your 
tasting Ram as you’re going through there’s like a  

889
01:31:52,740 –> 01:32:00,300
lounge with like music but then you can also buy 
like this 16 course pasting pairing menu where  

890
01:32:00,300 –> 01:32:06,600
some of the courses actually have rum in them and 
they they have on their website they’re like we  

891
01:32:06,600 –> 01:32:12,180
cannot make this non-alcoholic there is rum in the 
food like this whole and it’s it’s 20 000 Leagues  

892
01:32:12,180 –> 01:32:18,120
Under the Sea is like the theme of it and it like 
it’s blowing my mind that we’re going to this it’s  

893
01:32:18,120 –> 01:32:32,520
oh you’re showing it yeah wow look at this what oh 
my gosh and it’s only 16 people per seating oh wow

894
01:32:34,800 –> 01:32:41,280
yeah that is that’s it oh this dish right here 
this plate apparently like if you pick it up and  

895
01:32:41,280 –> 01:32:45,660
you kiss the dish to get the uni into your 
mouth like they don’t give you any utensils  

896
01:32:45,660 –> 01:32:51,540
or anything yeah make out with the dish so 
I guess it would be in your mouth that is  

897
01:32:51,540 –> 01:32:59,460
some high high concept stuff yeah I’m like 
who are these people at this but like yeah  

898
01:33:00,540 –> 01:33:06,120
we’re very we’re we’re pretty we’re pretty 
freaking excited I got I’m not gonna lie I  

899
01:33:06,120 –> 01:33:12,720
mean I guess Vegas is where this should be yeah 
for sure yeah where else would it be honestly yeah  

900
01:33:12,720 –> 01:33:22,020
maybe like Singapore or no because that’s they 
don’t they don’t like sin well yeah and people  

901
01:33:22,020 –> 01:33:30,780
would leave there and all get arrested Bangkok 
that’s where it should be [Music] but I’m excited

902
01:33:33,000 –> 01:33:38,340
yeah I’m fascinated to see how this 
all turned out but we’ll report back  

903
01:33:38,340 –> 01:33:41,940
yeah that’s one of our one of our experiences 
while we’re in Vegas besides the conference  

904
01:33:43,500 –> 01:33:47,160
yeah after watching season two of 
the bear that place looks like a  

905
01:33:47,160 –> 01:33:53,340
place to really enjoy mayor isn’t 
the bear so good but it’s so awful

906
01:33:57,540 –> 01:34:02,460
are we watching this this is so stressful we’ve 
been wanting to make that omelette in the last  

907
01:34:02,460 –> 01:34:10,200
episode of the last season oh yeah with the 
chips on top yeah yeah apparently the actress  

908
01:34:10,200 –> 01:34:18,720
made like the the Consulting chef helped her 
taught her but during the shoot the actress  

909
01:34:18,720 –> 01:34:26,400
actually made that dish very cool oh and she’s 
from Dorchester too oh she is that’s fine yeah  

910
01:34:28,020 –> 01:34:32,640
the one who plays literature her name is Bianca um

911
01:34:32,640 –> 01:34:43,080
I remember that was such a great show that’s 
a great show yeah and what’s his face lives  

912
01:34:43,080 –> 01:34:50,580
on a boat while he’s getting his training 
right that’s right yeah in Copenhagen right  

913
01:34:52,140 –> 01:35:00,900
the invisible cat the invisible cat yeah 
sounds great did you guys see the movie  

914
01:35:00,900 –> 01:35:06,780
what’s the movie The Menu the menu oh I want 
to watch it but I don’t like scary movies  

915
01:35:07,680 –> 01:35:14,760
I’m not the biggest fan of scary movies either 
it’s more suspense I’d say than yeah there’s  

916
01:35:14,760 –> 01:35:19,500
some Shock value to it for sure but I wouldn’t 
say it’s not like a horror movie at all yeah is  

917
01:35:19,500 –> 01:35:27,600
it like jumpy like some stuff there’s a couple 
of things that are that’s the shock value but  

918
01:35:27,600 –> 01:35:33,780
it’s not like jumping out at you it’s just like 
you’re like what did what what just happened yeah  

919
01:35:33,780 –> 01:35:41,700
oh okay like that yeah it’s about craft food and 
it treats the audience as if they eat crab food  

920
01:35:42,660 –> 01:35:50,040
I craft mac and cheese but Artistry food right 
High pollutants yeah like you have definitely have  

921
01:35:50,040 –> 01:35:57,540
to be familiar with the like creepy kind of menus 
and like that Vibes in that world a little bit you  

922
01:35:57,540 –> 01:36:04,980
know well do you hear about the scam pulled a few 
years ago about um it was a a restaurant that was  

923
01:36:04,980 –> 01:36:15,000
number one in London that never served a single 
item of food yeah you’ve seen that and he just  

924
01:36:15,000 –> 01:36:21,240
like went as ridiculous as he could so for for 
anybody who hasn’t heard of it right this guy like  

925
01:36:21,240 –> 01:36:28,260
Yelp is BS and I’m gonna prove it and he opened 
a restaurant on Yelp and then set up a phone line  

926
01:36:28,260 –> 01:36:31,260
and everything and when people would call he’d 
just be like I’m sorry we’re already booked for  

927
01:36:31,260 –> 01:36:37,440
months and months and months and had a few like 
people write fake reviews and all of a sudden it  

928
01:36:37,440 –> 01:36:43,320
was like called the shed and it was a picture of 
his literal shed in his backyard that’s amazing  

929
01:36:43,320 –> 01:36:50,040
yeah he was eventually there was enough five-star 
reviews that were like completely fabricated of  

930
01:36:50,040 –> 01:36:56,700
other people that pretended they had been there 
essentially right yeah for Prestige I think yeah

931
01:36:59,040 –> 01:37:02,520
and it became the number one 
restaurant in London that’s so crazy

932
01:37:05,100 –> 01:37:05,600
foreign

933
01:37:07,740 –> 01:37:13,440
I think one of the things he did just to make 
it extra ridiculous is he did hire like he had  

934
01:37:13,440 –> 01:37:19,860
one food critic come in and hired all these 
extras to be like other diners and stuff like  

935
01:37:19,860 –> 01:37:26,580
that and server and the server would come 
up and be like speaking of like crazy menus  

936
01:37:26,580 –> 01:37:30,300
is kind of how I connected the two you come 
up and the server would be like so we don’t  

937
01:37:30,300 –> 01:37:39,240
um actually have a menu what we do is I will 
ask you a few questions get your general Aura  

938
01:37:39,240 –> 01:37:46,860
and Vibe and I will recommend our dishes 
based on emotion and what you’re feeling  

939
01:37:47,760 –> 01:37:54,420
yeah totally pretentious it’s like 
yes no no it’s like the have a nice

940
01:37:57,960 –> 01:38:02,460
have a nice sunrise and there’s 
that’s amazing there’s a spot in  

941
01:38:02,460 –> 01:38:09,120
San Francisco that actually does serve food 
but their their menu is literally a poem Oh

942
01:38:09,780 –> 01:38:15,420
and it’s like so you have no idea what the 
actual food is or what the and then it comes  

943
01:38:15,420 –> 01:38:20,760
out and just obscurements out and it’s like 
a bonsai tree with like things underneath it  

944
01:38:20,760 –> 01:38:25,080
that look like mushrooms but they’re actually 
some other food that’s turned into like and you  

945
01:38:25,080 –> 01:38:29,640
just eat it and you’re like so what was that 
like what like yeah it was one of those like  

946
01:38:29,640 –> 01:38:33,900
fish here with no eyes yeah it was one of those 
like Michelin star places that like when I like  

947
01:38:33,900 –> 01:38:39,960
I mean it was beautiful it was delicious but then 
I left and I was like are we going to get pizza or  

948
01:38:39,960 –> 01:38:46,620
like what do we do in here that was wonderful and 
that was an experience but I’m still like hungry

949
01:38:46,620 –> 01:38:50,220
oh gosh

950
01:38:52,560 –> 01:38:59,940
we went to Sierra Nevada a few years back in North 
Carolina I haven’t been to that new facility it’s  

951
01:38:59,940 –> 01:39:07,200
wonderful we call it the Disneyland yeah um but 
they definitely it’s not quite as highfalutin  

952
01:39:07,200 –> 01:39:11,640
or anything of course it’s still Asheville North 
Carolina but it was definitely like little plates  

953
01:39:11,640 –> 01:39:16,740
and like a bite of this and a bite of that so 
like you’ve been drinking and you’re like I’m  

954
01:39:16,740 –> 01:39:24,360
so hungry I’m gonna eat everything you’re still 
in college too and so we oh yeah food there and  

955
01:39:24,360 –> 01:39:29,160
like you know we’re like we paid the check and 
you know barely made the Tiff and all this stuff  

956
01:39:29,160 –> 01:39:35,220
and we leave and then we like went to a Wendy’s 
across the street and just like all this stuff  

957
01:39:35,220 –> 01:39:39,840
yeah like I thought I was ordering a Philly 
cheesesteak and it was like this big yeah yeah

958
01:39:41,460 –> 01:39:49,260
I wouldn’t expect that at like a brewery like that 
is that’s a weird choice I mean they have like  

959
01:39:49,260 –> 01:39:57,720
truffle you know it was like truffle fries with 
like this they leaned into Farm to Table very hard  

960
01:39:57,720 –> 01:40:04,260
yeah I remember they were dragging pretty hard and 
it was very good about this local strain of rice  

961
01:40:04,260 –> 01:40:09,960
that at one point was thought lost oh the Carolina 
gold the Carolina gold rice and this and that  

962
01:40:09,960 –> 01:40:15,300
and the other you know all that sort of stuff and 
then they give you like a quarter cup of this rice  

963
01:40:16,200 –> 01:40:21,600
I mean everything was very delicious it’s just 
when you’ve been drinking more of it yeah yeah  

964
01:40:23,160 –> 01:40:33,900
for sure interesting have you ever been to Toro in 
Boston yeah yes yeah yeah yeah I love that place  

965
01:40:34,620 –> 01:40:37,080
um I don’t know why that made me think 
of it because they’re not pretentious  

966
01:40:37,080 –> 01:40:40,380
or anything but small boys yeah small 
place I guess because that’s the place  

967
01:40:40,380 –> 01:40:47,700
you tried to take me when we were there I 
think so maybe now now that place is great

968
01:40:49,920 –> 01:40:56,940
yeah there’s a place in this not far away from 
it now opened called Ilona and it’s Georgian  

969
01:40:56,940 –> 01:41:03,780
as in the country not the state yeah yeah it’s 
really good it’s it’s pretty it’s similar in that  

970
01:41:03,780 –> 01:41:11,520
like a lot of it it’s small plates uh but with a 
very different bit yeah I mean that was my first

971
01:41:17,760 –> 01:41:23,280
enjoyed all like we like we were it was like 9 30 
at night we had just got and we were starving but  

972
01:41:23,280 –> 01:41:26,880
we were like all right it’s New York like things 
are open like we have to be able to get food and  

973
01:41:26,880 –> 01:41:30,480
so we were in the back seat like brainstorming and 
looking at our maps and trying to figure out where  

974
01:41:30,480 –> 01:41:35,940
we’re gonna go and our caddy all of a sudden like 
piped up but either way I don’t think so I think  

975
01:41:35,940 –> 01:41:41,160
he was it’s like do you guys like all types of 
food and like we were like yeah sure and he was  

976
01:41:41,160 –> 01:41:46,920
like there’s this great Georgian place like right 
near your hotel and we were like oh really like  

977
01:41:46,920 –> 01:41:50,880
we’ve never had Georgian food what’s that like and 
he’s like actually I’m from Georgia and like like  

978
01:41:50,880 –> 01:41:55,380
so he started to tell us about like his culture 
and his like you know he was really excited to  

979
01:41:55,380 –> 01:42:00,120
share it with us and did you have the bread 
thing with the cheese in it and then the eggs  

980
01:42:00,120 –> 01:42:08,760
and swirled into it I did and it was they called 
it a cheese boat that was right that would sell it  

981
01:42:08,760 –> 01:42:14,760
we would have bought it if we were only speaking 
English and didn’t have a fancy language next to  

982
01:42:14,760 –> 01:42:20,160
it but man that was good everything that I found 
like the Georgian food to be so good we were so  

983
01:42:20,160 –> 01:42:25,440
impressed I was like why isn’t this a thing why 
don’t people talk about Jordan food more like it’s  

984
01:42:25,440 –> 01:42:31,080
really quite delicious and it was one of those 
places that we got there and they were like oh  

985
01:42:31,080 –> 01:42:35,580
we’re closing in a half an hour like you know and 
there was a little like oh [ __ ] they’re gonna be  

986
01:42:35,580 –> 01:42:39,780
like rushing up out the door but once they saw how 
much we were like enjoying the food and ordering  

987
01:42:39,780 –> 01:42:44,880
all this wine and like really getting into it 
they were like all right like let’s do this yeah

988
01:42:46,560 –> 01:42:52,320
we ingratiated ourselves as we do with 
all of our our food and bees enthusiasm  

989
01:42:53,460 –> 01:43:01,020
have you guys uh discovered a way to sort of 
crush ice that’s um you know you guys were  

990
01:43:01,020 –> 01:43:05,640
like actually crushing it but is there a nice 
way to make say it sort of like a chipped ice  

991
01:43:06,780 –> 01:43:15,360
um in a different way I I’ve got a um I’ve got 
a ninja and sometimes I’ll put some ice cubes  

992
01:43:15,360 –> 01:43:20,220
in a ninja and I’ll make a daiquiri uh and 
and it’s just like it’s but it’s very very  

993
01:43:20,220 –> 01:43:27,840
very icy yeah it’s more like slushy rather 
than right yeah I don’t I don’t feel like  

994
01:43:28,740 –> 01:43:35,640
I mess around with crushed ice too much 
and since we have this burlap stack thing  

995
01:43:36,900 –> 01:43:41,220
um and I kind of like whacking it like a 
whack-a-mole yeah getting a little aggression  

996
01:43:41,220 –> 01:43:47,760
I do think they sell um silicone ice things that 
are really tiny ones that like then you can pop  

997
01:43:47,760 –> 01:43:55,080
out and it’s kind of like crushed ice these 
are so small you know um but yeah rolling pin  

998
01:43:55,860 –> 01:44:00,840
maybe there’s an attachment for the uh 
Cuisinart the KitchenAid KitchenAid I’m  

999
01:44:00,840 –> 01:44:09,120
just I’m just so worried about in my apartment 
just like whack it and ice at 2 A.M 3 A.M 4 A.M

1000
01:44:12,180 –> 01:44:13,740
just make sure you have a

1001
01:44:16,320 –> 01:44:21,420
kitchen towel underneath you’re fine good 
night bye it’s all good trying to make a  

1002
01:44:21,420 –> 01:44:29,940
rum drink [ __ ] off neighbors yeah officer it’s 
a delicious cocktail I don’t think all that many  

1003
01:44:29,940 –> 01:44:34,320
cocktails call for crushed ice that’s why we don’t 
yeah have a good solution for it because there’s  

1004
01:44:34,320 –> 01:44:42,900
a few but yeah I mean other than this one and 
like smashes um and and maybe like um what is it

1005
01:44:54,180 –> 01:44:57,960
and there’s the reason that they don’t the crushed 
ice doesn’t melt because you know we’re always  

1006
01:44:57,960 –> 01:45:02,280
talking about bigger ice cubes they’re better 
more slowly but as the reason why it doesn’t  

1007
01:45:02,280 –> 01:45:07,260
melt is because there’s so much of this Crush 
base in it that it almost so cold it causes the  

1008
01:45:07,260 –> 01:45:12,960
drink down and keeps it as cold as it was yeah 
very effectively are you making our second our  

1009
01:45:12,960 –> 01:45:17,400
second thing yeah because there wasn’t enough 
room in there for the first one so Evan I don’t  

1010
01:45:17,400 –> 01:45:24,180
know if you remember this but um bunch of years 
ago I took a pineapple and I jigsawed the top of  

1011
01:45:24,180 –> 01:45:30,900
it off and I kept the husk and then I put that 
Husk in the refrigerator and I used it as a cup  

1012
01:45:31,560 –> 01:45:40,080
and what I had found is that coconut was the best 
insulator of cold I’ve ever had better than any  

1013
01:45:40,080 –> 01:45:46,500
of the you know metal cups that you could buy uh 
coconut or pineapple coconut oh I think it’s a  

1014
01:45:46,500 –> 01:45:52,740
pineapple upper did I say fine okay I’m cracking 
I meant coconut and it’s just like the coconut  

1015
01:45:52,740 –> 01:46:01,440
had the right sort of like uh moisture to pulp 
where it it held the moisture and it just I I  

1016
01:46:01,440 –> 01:46:08,280
couldn’t put beer in it it was so cold because it 
would Frost over no oh yes oh a hundred percent  

1017
01:46:08,280 –> 01:46:14,040
wait is there still meat in the Coconut yes yeah 
yeah they were still pulp there it was completely  

1018
01:46:14,040 –> 01:46:22,740
natural uh coconut um and so I I give it a go just 
jigsaw the top off get all that [ __ ] off put  

1019
01:46:22,740 –> 01:46:29,700
it in the freeze put a beer in it regret that and 
then put some hard alcohol in it interesting next

1020
01:46:32,520 –> 01:46:41,700
have you Jay have you ever heard of pie crate 
no what’s that man hikeri was this uh crazy  

1021
01:46:41,700 –> 01:46:51,180
idea where they took a wood pulp or other products 
like that um made a slurry with water and froze it  

1022
01:46:51,180 –> 01:46:54,780
and somebody had the bright idea in World War II 
that we were they were gonna make a ship out of it  

1023
01:46:56,040 –> 01:47:03,780
and it was the the idea was it’s this combination 
of wood fibers overlapping in water and ice  

1024
01:47:04,800 –> 01:47:10,680
and the North Atlantic Star is so cold uh and 
I I wonder if the coconut is very similar in  

1025
01:47:10,680 –> 01:47:15,720
that it’s very pulpy very fibrous but with a 
lot of water and one of the demonstrate the  

1026
01:47:15,720 –> 01:47:21,120
reason the crazy idea got as far as it did is 
and this is a true story I’ve looked it up this  

1027
01:47:21,120 –> 01:47:27,120
is not some like apocryphal thing they brought 
a chunk of it into a room with all these like  

1028
01:47:27,120 –> 01:47:35,520
generals and Admirals and stuff like that pulled 
out a revolver and shot it and the Ricochet like  

1029
01:47:35,520 –> 01:47:40,080
they forgot about the Ricochet and it pinged 
around the room hit someone relatively  

1030
01:47:40,080 –> 01:47:47,040
harmlessly thank God but like barely made a 
dent in this stuff and it would have stayed  

1031
01:47:47,040 –> 01:47:53,340
frozen even in you know in the North Atlantic 
just fine there’s a MythBusters episode where  

1032
01:47:53,340 –> 01:47:58,860
they replicate it and actually make a boat that 
they go around in for a while uh in something

1033
01:48:02,160 –> 01:48:03,660
it’s pretty neat

1034
01:48:06,540 –> 01:48:14,160
maybe maybe that’s what’s it we need to make 
some sort of like wood pulpey uh slurry put  

1035
01:48:14,160 –> 01:48:19,860
it in some sort of fancy cup as the insulator 
and you can sell that at your uh restaurant bar  

1036
01:48:19,860 –> 01:48:29,640
there we go there we go maybe that’s what uh the 
Nautilus in Captain uh Captain Nemo’s ship in 20  

1037
01:48:29,640 –> 01:48:34,020
000 Leagues Under this knee was 
made out of hey we’ll find out here

1038
01:48:38,820 –> 01:48:42,840
we’re just realizing Evan forgot the 
nutmeg garnish on the painkiller earlier  

1039
01:48:42,840 –> 01:48:47,040
and it’s a very critical component 
because the aroma of all your  

1040
01:48:47,040 –> 01:48:51,060
drinking it really sucks at a bar so sorry 
sorry if you didn’t figure it out back on  

1041
01:48:51,060 –> 01:48:54,480
your painkiller put your nutmeg on 
your neck painkiller yeah for sure

1042
01:48:56,820 –> 01:49:01,200
um yeah we think we have to we’re 
gonna do the audiobook for 20  

1043
01:49:01,200 –> 01:49:05,580
000 leads under the sea while we’re 
on vacation just on the drive up  

1044
01:49:05,580 –> 01:49:08,520
because friends the book’s only 
prepare for our dinner pages long

1045
01:49:10,860 –> 01:49:15,480
because it’s been a long time I’ve 
never I’ve never read it did you see  

1046
01:49:15,480 –> 01:49:19,500
the terrible movie made by 
Disney from the 1950s nope

1047
01:49:21,600 –> 01:49:27,540
hey speaking of books made into uh 
series or movies did you watch wool or  

1048
01:49:27,540 –> 01:49:35,700
um Silo Silo we’re currently walking time though 
it’s so good it’s so good and I and I never read  

1049
01:49:35,700 –> 01:49:39,900
the book I don’t like that’s not my genre like I 
don’t care about that [ __ ] at all and I’m more  

1050
01:49:39,900 –> 01:49:44,520
with him I’m like when are we watching title again 
come on we gotta Watch Milo like it’s so good  

1051
01:49:45,540 –> 01:49:50,460
yeah speaking of we have to watch style 
everything I’m not done with it yet  

1052
01:49:50,460 –> 01:49:54,900
yeah we have to finish that before we go on the 
globe because yeah I don’t know what we’re gonna  

1053
01:49:54,900 –> 01:50:00,660
do otherwise did you you read the book Jay yeah 
I did the audiobook um when I moved out here to  

1054
01:50:00,660 –> 01:50:07,260
Seattle and then whatever the few years go 
by and now they have The Silo uh series and  

1055
01:50:07,260 –> 01:50:11,820
we we watched it and then we hit we got up to 
the point where we had to watch it every week  

1056
01:50:11,820 –> 01:50:19,020
because it was being released every week sure uh 
and we got to episode nine I guess and like me  

1057
01:50:19,020 –> 01:50:24,000
and the guy I was watching it with we were just 
so disappointed because we were like oh they’re  

1058
01:50:24,000 –> 01:50:30,220
not gonna wrap up the story and then we realized 
that there was another final episode [Laughter]  

1059
01:50:31,920 –> 01:50:37,320
and then we’re like oh okay so we were mad and 
then we were so happy like all within the span  

1060
01:50:37,320 –> 01:50:42,180
of 10 minutes it’s hard when you think like you 
have more to go and then you realize you’re near  

1061
01:50:42,180 –> 01:50:48,480
the end or vice versa that’s a challenging 
situation for sure so something kind of fun I  

1062
01:50:48,480 –> 01:50:57,780
don’t know if you guys know this about Silo and 
that that novel series um the novels wool and  

1063
01:50:58,800 –> 01:51:08,100
rust rust and shift were not released and novel 
they were released as a blog posts for free

1064
01:51:09,060 –> 01:51:17,100
like chapter after chapter after chapter whenever 
he was finished with them and maybe he could  

1065
01:51:17,100 –> 01:51:22,560
release like three chapters in a row or maybe it 
was just one but that’s how the books were written  

1066
01:51:22,560 –> 01:51:30,720
and published they self-published them on like 
WordPress wow wow yeah that’s insane so why are we  

1067
01:51:31,560 –> 01:51:40,200
I think Andy Weir for the Martian did something 
similar and he one of the reasons why the Martian  

1068
01:51:40,200 –> 01:51:46,980
is so accurate or at least plausible is because 
he would like release a chapter and then like he  

1069
01:51:46,980 –> 01:51:52,260
would have if not real rocket scientists at least 
amateur rocket scientists reading it and be like  

1070
01:51:52,260 –> 01:51:57,240
dude you know you’re close but like you need to 
change this or that or the other yeah exactly  

1071
01:51:58,500 –> 01:52:03,120
yeah I didn’t know other people did that too 
though that’s awesome and that’s a whole series  

1072
01:52:03,120 –> 01:52:08,880
that’s right easy yeah that was he didn’t even 
get to a point where it was so popular where  

1073
01:52:08,880 –> 01:52:12,600
he was like all right I can make some money 
off no yeah eventually he did okay sold the  

1074
01:52:12,600 –> 01:52:16,500
you know sold the rights to got it published for 
real pulled it off the internet and then started  

1075
01:52:16,500 –> 01:52:23,700
making money off of it but initially like he had 
prove positive numbers to the Publishers like  

1076
01:52:23,700 –> 01:52:29,640
people like this yeah and with a little 
bit of money behind it um we can both  

1077
01:52:29,640 –> 01:52:38,160
make money and now they’re both making a lot 
of money thanks Apple yeah it is quite good

1078
01:52:40,680 –> 01:52:50,100
I’m so excited for you to for the next season like 
it’s a fascinating beginning and then it just goes  

1079
01:52:50,100 –> 01:52:55,440
and then it goes see I feel like the whole 
season I’ve been like wait we’re already like  

1080
01:52:55,440 –> 01:52:58,860
I feel like it’s moving very fast and I’m like 
I feel like they could have scratched all of  

1081
01:52:58,860 –> 01:53:04,740
these storylines out so much further so I’m I’m 
interested to see where it goes because I feel  

1082
01:53:04,740 –> 01:53:11,040
like they’re moving very fast through story lines 
um Evan correct me if I’m wrong uh but I’m pretty  

1083
01:53:11,040 –> 01:53:16,980
sure that in the book the elevator by the time 
the story is happening the elevators are broken  

1084
01:53:17,640 –> 01:53:22,800
and so they have to rely on the stairs 
and the carriers to get stuff going  

1085
01:53:24,360 –> 01:53:30,000
any elevators right now on the show right 
right not and that’s the presentation that  

1086
01:53:30,000 –> 01:53:34,740
I think you’re asking about and I’m now that you 
say that like when that when that was mentioned  

1087
01:53:34,740 –> 01:53:43,860
in the show part of me pause and I was like were 
there never any elevators or were they just like  

1088
01:53:44,460 –> 01:53:51,660
disallowed at some point or taken offline or maybe 
actually literally broke and I I can’t confirm or  

1089
01:53:51,660 –> 01:53:56,760
deny because I remember in the world building you 
know they’re in The Silo and The Silo has been  

1090
01:53:56,760 –> 01:54:03,900
around for what is presumed to be maybe a hundred 
years maybe more and so if they’re living in a  

1091
01:54:03,900 –> 01:54:11,640
world of uh hand-me-downs right and and breaking 
down and so you see that in the show she has to  

1092
01:54:11,640 –> 01:54:18,300
sort of like fix the engine recycling yeah right 
and the recycling and you not really know like how  

1093
01:54:18,300 –> 01:54:22,620
many generations of people had worn the clothes 
and stuff and I could have swore that in the  

1094
01:54:22,620 –> 01:54:28,740
book they have to use the stairs just because the 
elevators were worn out and so and so like life  

1095
01:54:28,740 –> 01:54:38,100
has sort of like evolved around using the stairs 
I mean that that kind of rings true but I I cannot  

1096
01:54:38,100 –> 01:54:46,440
recall if they took them offline as a measure of 
control they broke or they never existed but I do  

1097
01:54:46,440 –> 01:54:51,120
kind of think it would be really weird to build 
something like that and not build elevator when  

1098
01:54:51,120 –> 01:54:55,140
you have the technology to drill something down 
like that you obviously have the technology to  

1099
01:54:55,140 –> 01:54:59,280
build an elevator but I definitely don’t think 
they’ve made any indication on the show of like  

1100
01:54:59,280 –> 01:55:04,440
there used to be elevators right they’ve just 
kind of made an indication of like it’s theirs  

1101
01:55:06,120 –> 01:55:11,220
right I I just I really enjoy World building 
especially sci-fi World building and that  

1102
01:55:11,220 –> 01:55:16,020
was one of those things that I really 
I remember from the books that I really  

1103
01:55:16,020 –> 01:55:22,260
enjoyed was just the idea that you’ve 
cultivated a culture around hand-me-downs  

1104
01:55:22,260 –> 01:55:32,100
and a broken Society of things that used to work 
yeah um it’s kind of a why a book but it has a  

1105
01:55:32,100 –> 01:55:38,100
really good World building there’s a book called 
the captain’s daughter it’s written by uh Peter F  

1106
01:55:38,100 –> 01:55:46,920
Hamilton who’s I think written some of the best 
sci-fi in the last 20 years um and it’s about a

1107
01:55:49,020 –> 01:55:54,900
I guess basically a Noah’s Ark an arc 
ship going off to find a new planet  

1108
01:55:54,900 –> 01:56:01,800
because the Earth is broken um and the 
the world that you’re presented and are  

1109
01:56:01,800 –> 01:56:09,780
introduced to going on inside 
the arc ship is fascinating um  

1110
01:56:10,920 –> 01:56:18,060
it has some similar like elements to Silo and this 
idea of like hand-me-downs and you can’t make more  

1111
01:56:19,260 –> 01:56:25,980
Etc um yeah the captain’s daughter there you’re 
gonna tell them about our glitter sci-fi book  

1112
01:56:27,420 –> 01:56:31,980
so bad it’s not bad it’s 
just pretty bad not as good

1113
01:56:34,500 –> 01:56:40,260
I feel like Evan tried to get me into like 
a Sci-Fi audiobook and he picked it wasn’t  

1114
01:56:40,260 –> 01:56:44,760
I hadn’t read it before so I didn’t know 
if it’s gonna work or what’s it called the  

1115
01:56:44,760 –> 01:56:52,140
battle of the linguist Mages but it’s all like 
sparkle Dungeons and like glitter dragons and  

1116
01:56:52,140 –> 01:56:56,040
I’m just like what do you like because I’m 
a woman I need to be Sparkle and glitter  

1117
01:56:56,040 –> 01:57:01,320
like what is this I didn’t pick it based on 
that I know it was kind of ridiculous yeah

1118
01:57:04,200 –> 01:57:11,880
all right I’ve got a uh rooftop party that I have 
to go to because a uh military surgeon is moving  

1119
01:57:11,880 –> 01:57:19,260
to Georgia because they need him over there and so 
um Georgia the country or Georgia the state okay  

1120
01:57:19,260 –> 01:57:24,900
that would have been very coincidental so 
I’m gonna go up on the roof and have some  

1121
01:57:24,900 –> 01:57:30,480
rum all right yeah we’re gonna share the 
room make some dinner and watch Silo yeah

1122
01:57:30,480 –> 01:57:36,120
thank you for joining us we hope to 
see you next month for Oktoberfest  

1123
01:57:36,900 –> 01:57:40,451
all right yeah bye